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welcome to the Plymouth select board Tuesday April 11th would you please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance

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to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it

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stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all

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right I’m sorry yep thank you everyone the Selectmen have

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been in executive sessions since 4 30 and now we will move on to our agenda

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for Open Session the first item on the agenda is a public hearing

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transfer of all alcohol restaurant license stack Shack LLC doing business

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as stack Shack yep

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butcher Michael

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in accordance with chapter 138 of the Massachusetts general laws as amended notices hereby given that a public

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hearing will be held at the Plymouth Town Hall 26 Court Street on Tuesday April 25th 2023 at 6 pm to consider the

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application for a transfer of a seasonal all alcohol license from stack Shack LLC

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doing business as stack Shack 55 long Boulevard Joseph P janetti manager to p

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and JV Waterfront Incorporated doing business as 3v restaurants sandbox 55

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Loring Boulevard Gina viscarello ebenezi manager description of the

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premises as follows alcohol and concessions will be served out of a oath

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of a 136 to 160 square foot mobile kitchen on a lot in Cottage Park Marina

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picnic tables will be in the seating area which will be roped off with signs

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forbidden removal remove removal of alcoholic beverages anyone wishing to be

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heard on this matter should plan to attend this meeting and now declare the Searing open

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chair thank you is there anyone that would like to speak in favor of this license

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hearing anyone in opposition we’ll bring it back to the board

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second motion to approve by Mr blutzer seconded by Mr quintal all those in

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favor unanimous the next public hearing is alteration of

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premises South Shore restaurant group doing businesses East Bay Pine Hills 54

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Clubhouse Drive James March the manager in accordance with chapter 138 of the

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Massachusetts general laws as amended notice it’s hereby given that a public hearing will be out at the Plymouth Town

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Hall 26 Court Street on Tuesday April 11th yeah

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2023 at 602 pm to consider the application for an alteration of

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premises for South Shore restaurant group doing business as East Bay Grill Pine Hills folder of an annual alcohol

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restaurant license 54 Clubhouse Drive James March manager

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description of the premises is as follows a two-story mixed-use building with uses including dining rooms and

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kitchens a men’s and women’s locker rooms and lounges a pro shop offices an electric golf cart storage

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included for dining are two rooms Pavilion and Grill room applicant seeks

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to remove third meeting room outdoor Terrace two Encore snack bars in a

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service of all alcohol beverages from beverage cots on the grounds of the two golf courses as well as

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applicant seeks to add an outside tented area adjacent to the clubhouse

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does any more questions it gives the number oh that’s for us okay would anyone like to speak on this

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in opposition in favor okay we’ll bring it back to the board

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do I have a motion second

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motion by Mr Mahoney seconded by Mr Helm discussion

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all those in favor unanimous you’re abstaining oh I’m sorry

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Mr quintal for and Mr quindle abstaining

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okay next is public comment do we have anyone in public comment

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up it

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push the microphone Steve Lyden it was brought up a while

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back about the hedges Pond preserve and I think the town owns that property and

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there was four Cottages it was supposed to be torn down and the building inspector who who said that they were

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unsafe and now they’re hazardous I know the good weather’s coming and people are going to be up there is there any reason

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why these buildings haven’t been torn down and do we know when this is going to happen thank you well I bet you the the town

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manager might have answers for that yeah sure happy to provide an update

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um so as I mentioned in the past the the four cabins have been tested for

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hazardous materials they’ve all tested positive for lead um this lead is what we believe is

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leaching into the soil we’ve also tested the Great Hall as well fortunately I

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don’t believe that has tested positive for lead I’ve recently applied to CPC

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for seventeen thousand dollars so that we can test the soil for lead and start

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the process of tearing those buildings down I would expect assuming CPC

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provides that seventeen thousand dollars worth of funding we’ll have to go to the fall time meeting to seek Elijah a sum

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of money for the actual demolition in disposal of the product so I’m waiting

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to hear back from the CPC as to whether or not they’ll entertain that application [Music]

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any questions Mr Mahoney can you follow up with that

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at your CPC meeting yes

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Madam chair there hasn’t been a meeting in a few weeks so as soon as there is a next regularly scheduled meeting

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I will certainly communicate that to yourself the rest of the board and the town manager and

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certainly at the Town manager is available who knows maybe he’ll be inclined to attend the meeting but we are still

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I thought we met a couple of weeks ago and supposed to have the second part of the

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summit to clarify and you know agree to some of these issues and solutions moving forward

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Derek do we have any dates for that second part

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um I haven’t been invited to a an additional meeting like I said I had I did apply um last week for seventeen thousand

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dollars in my email I had suggested to all the CPC members that I’d be happy to

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come before the committee and present this request the town clerk has informed

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me we believe CBC may be meeting this Thursday

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okay so um that’s news to me it wasn’t aware that they were actually uh having

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the discussion 4 30. okay

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um the last time I checked my email there was no update there so this is recent news

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all right thank you okay um just Derek if we could have a plan B

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just in case the application goes nowhere and if the ability if the

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our building department is saying that we have to take down those buildings because it’s a safety hazard then we

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need to address those immediately agreed all right any public comment

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could you please say your name uh good evening John magnarelli nine Mariners

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way it seems like every time there’s a planning board select board zoning board

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meeting the issue of water comes up whether it’s quality or quantity at the

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July June I’m sorry the January 10th meeting of the select board at the end of the meeting Mr Mahoney came up with a

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suggestion that maybe it’s time to put a temporary moratorium on building and Madam chair chairwoman that you kind of

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jumped on it and said well maybe we should have a meeting between the select board and the planning board in a

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solicit public comment and you know see see what the people think and see what you guys think I was just wondering have

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we moved forward on that Forum at all or where are we or is it still viable I I

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did um reach out to Mr Grandy and I haven’t uh I may have heard back but we

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have had one meeting so could we set up that second meeting I have talked to Mr Hammond our planning director and he’s

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trying to organize a joint meeting with the planning board and select board in May in the month of May oh that’s

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fantastic you’ll be before May 16th and you’re right I know that Mr quintal

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and I have been trying to move forward with a moratorium for three years and it’s never

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really kind of gotten anywhere but now I think there are some valid reasons out

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there we have plenty of water we just don’t have any way to move it move it exactly so all right thank you very much

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you’re welcome okay any more public comments

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no um we have a license administrative notes

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and permits does anyone have any issues with anything in those categories

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and if not I’d like to see them moved as a group

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not through the chat of the Town manager Mr brindisi I was just looking for an explanation on

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on my packet it says admin note number two I believe it’s now technically number one

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but a proven execute the annual town meeting proposed Town Charter ballot question language and I

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just wondering if you can provide an explanation there on that one thank you uh sure so uh Tom Clerk’s had this

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evening she’s been working very closely with Town Council on drafting the two

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questions that are before you this evening both of these questions um they

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articulate to the voter what voting no means on the charter question and what a yes

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vote would mean on a chatter question there had there was some confusion with some Charter commission members who

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thought that this was more or less a summary of the chat and it’s not it’s a yes no vote and what that means that

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shot a commission under the statute they are they have the authority to draft a

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summary of what the Chata entails and they’re working on that summary as well and as the town clerk pointed out to me

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if you think of the red book when we have state ballot questions it would be similar to that so we’ll have

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the yes vote the no vote and then a summary of the chatter itself

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thank you yeah it’s on there okay

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and will we be able to review those questions before they’re put on the ballot

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yes but it’s not on the agenda right

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the agenda item and admin note the board will vote to approve and execute the

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2023 annual time proposed to Uncharted ballot question no I mean once it yeah okay all right

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gotcha um

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anyone um questions comments anything do we have a motion

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Louisville has presented second motion by Mr quintal seconded by Mr

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Mahoney Madam chair sorry to interrupt are you are you saying that you’re going to be

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voting as a group for admin notes licenses and permits as well okay

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just checking things a question uh for since this is uh there’s language going

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on to the ballot should it not be a separate vote rather

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than voted in Mass traditionally we’ve voted these separately

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just for clarity

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just a point of clarification because he’s been in with the executive session he hasn’t caught up on his email the

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charter commission has presented their summary to me before the deadline which is Monday so I have that in my email so

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the ballot will read shall the town of Plymouth accept the charter then it will be a summary and it’s about 451 words

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and then it was and then it will be the no if you vote no if you vote Yes which is in your packet that’s what it will

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look like and if you you don’t need a separate vote because I just need something that you voted on this

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according to the chart of 5-1-3 and that puts the yes no one statement that I’m

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looking to do and the child also requires that to be published in the newspaper which I’ll take care of in a

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couple weeks okay so we have a motion and a second

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discussion all those in favor

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unanimous all right next is recognition of years

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for Mr de Blasio

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where does Mr Block there he is I’m hiding Barry is hiding this evening

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um so we wanted to take a moment to recognize Barry’s 20 years of service with a ton

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of Plymouth unfortunately Barry although today was his last official day serving in this capacity he was unable to be

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with us physically so Barry I don’t know if you can see this but we have a nice going away present for you

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it’s not cash um so I just wanted to spend a few minutes

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just talking a little bit about Barry again I know a lot of you guys know Barry over you know because he has a

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service and the things he’s done for the town but um on a personal level Barry and I we we

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had a really good working relationship when I was the assistant Tom manager and then that relationship continued when I

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became the top manager in Upton and oftentimes I would call Barry and I would ask him for advice in fact there

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was one occasion I took the recreation director from opt-in and we did a site

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visit down here in Plymouth and Barry took us all around and kind of gave us really good advice on the things that we

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could do in Upton and I always appreciated Barry’s friendship in that in that respect and that I come back as

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a Time manager and we continue to have that relationship and you know and I knew Barry I think Barry told me on like

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week two of my return last year that he would be retiring in a year and and um I

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appreciate the one-year notice that he gave us all to prepare for his departure but I think you guys really know

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everything Barry has accomplished I mean Barry served as a past president of the mass Rec Association

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during that time he served on the governor’s task force for outdoor recreation so when Governor Baker

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convened a group of individuals he called on Barry to assist him in thinking about what strategies and

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policies should the state be thinking about when we think about outdoor recreation during during the covet

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experience and so you know talking about Barry I didn’t realize that you know

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Barry it was his idea when he met with the previous time manager to move Recreation out of the DPW and into the

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Community Resources when you think about Community Resources and what it does day in and day out it focuses us on our

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people Public Works focuses on our infrastructure and so you know he was he

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he had the foresight to take Recreation that focuses on our people and put that in the appropriate department so that’s

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going to set the stage for what we plan to do in the future with that department so and then Barry and I we had a

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conversation today about you know growing up in this City and we didn’t we didn’t have ponds we didn’t have lakes we certainly don’t have a coastline with

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beaches so we relied very heavily on on splash pads and and public pools

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um and and the town only has one splash pad over here at Nelson and you know talking

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about Barry realizing that you know he was a a big advocate of getting this Splash Pad here

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and and you go there on the on a hot summer weekend and that thing is packed so I just bringing up some of the

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achievements Barry has contributed to the town over the years and we talked about a hedger’s pond and you know that

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valuable resource so um you know Barry I wanted to thank you personally for everything you’ve done

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for the town in the 20 years I plan on continuing to keep your cell

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phone because I’m sure I’ll have lots of questions in the future and I wish you well you and your wife into your

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retirement and please make sure you come back to the town and and visit you have

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a bunch of friends here so we all wish you well so again Barry will hopefully we’ll see you in town to give this to

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you but if not we’ll package it up and send it to Fox Road great thank you so much

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Barry congratulations on your retirement I

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certainly enjoyed working with you over the last 10 to 15 years I know that you know you’re only a text or a phone call

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or an email away and your response 90 of the time was virtually instantaneous

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um you know we Mr brandisi just mentioned Hedges and we had a conversation about

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that earlier I know that you were there from the beginning you put that road map together with respect to the program you

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know the revolving fund had made a sustainable and you know and the revenue that it generates from you know

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providing those campers with the opportunity to get down on that site which is really a phenomenal asset for

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this community but you know a lot of credit goes to yourself and you know certainly to the workers in your department

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I I know that you’re jealous that looks like Hedges is going to head into another phase here and you won’t be around full time to participate in that

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but I could always pass you in I could always patch you into uh you know a CPC meeting if you want to uh be an informal

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consultant okay happy to be there yeah okay all right Barry I wish you and the wife the best

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at everything you do in the future thank you thank you so much

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Mr Blitzer Hey Barry it’s Charlie Blitzer how are you sorry I just want to uh just say a

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couple things about your uh your class act a gentleman

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a people person a professional those are just some of the words to describe you

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I want to thank you for your 20 years of service as Derek touched on you’ve done so much for this town

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but there’s one thing that I one thing that I want to bring out that you did which is very important to our tourism

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is the revitalization of Memorial Hall you know you’ve revitalized that place

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and it’s I know the last couple of years that are busy as she has it’s ever had and it’s only going to get busier

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because of you in the work that you’ve done down there so I just wanted to uh thank you congratulate you and your

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retirements and wish you well in the future I know you’re you’re not done you’re going to be you’re going to be

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doing something somewhere you’re not done you’re too young to be done so congratulations

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thank you Charlie

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Barry it’s been a pleasure all the years and reiterate what Charlie and John have

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already said and I wish you the very best thank you so much and we’ll probably see

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you somewhere I’m sure start with helm

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Barry I’ve only worked with you for a short period of time um but it’s been a very pleasurable time

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uh your forthcoming nature your understanding of the history of things

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around Plymouth under under your domain and your willingness to work with the

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groups that that I’ve been involved with is really appreciated uh you’ll definitely be missed but congratulations

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thank you so much Eric I guess they’re going to save the best for last so yes

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well we certainly have been on very opposite sides of um some issues but I appreciate your

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respectfulness and we always seem to come to the right conclusion somewhere

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down the road once we finished our own kind of path to get there so but I wish

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you the best of luck and I’m sure you’ll be doing something hopefully a Plymouth resident Maybe

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um and maybe I we appreciate everything you’ve done for the rec department has

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it has moved by Leaps and Bounds from you know way back in 2 4 2014 when I

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started paying attention so um wish you the best of luck and have fun

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I definitely well and I want to thank you for all of your help too you’ve you know we the debate in the challenge has

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always been great it’s all about the journey and I think everyone here can agree that Plymouth is an amazing

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community and it’s truly been my honor to have worked for this community so you’re thinking me I’d like to really

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take the opportunity to thank all of you it’s been one of the best jobs I’ve ever had

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thanks

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hey um and now the next order of business uh

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the Public Employee committee PEC agreement and I believe we have

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do we have Silvio or Derek or who the man we may both uh

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the legend you know this one do you have a slide deck

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and so I just um as Anthony pulls that up we have a

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a PEC agreement that is before you this evening for final ratification I’m going

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to spend a few minutes um going through the highlights of this agreement and the negotiations

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before I thank everybody I want to thank Silvio and Brad and Lynn about our

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finance director and Sue shalu and the staff over the school department for helping us move this along

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and then I think kind of the Catalyst Behind These negotiations was our chairwoman and our vice chairman who who

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uh kind of set the stage in the groundwork uh to work with the unions on

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what I would argue is probably one of the most successful PEC negotiations in

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quite some time and we’ll share why we all think it’s a successful PEC negotiation

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as soon as this works

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foreign so these are some of the highlights

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Silvio thank you for putting this together so this is a six-year agreement so just to kind of give people a little

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bit of History we had one year remaining on the existing PEC agreement and during discussions we’ve we all

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collectively said wouldn’t it be great to have a five-year agreement and then as you’ll see with some of the changes

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what we realized is that you know we’re going to see some substantial significant changes uh savings on year

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one so we decided let’s let’s move our savings into what would

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not ordinarily have been the last year of the existing PEC agreement so we took

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that one year remaining bundle that with a five-year agreement which is why we came to a six-year agreement

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so you’ll see I’m going to go over the the changes in the next three years in the last three years we kept status quo

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so in year one uh and this was um this was a proposal that actually came from the union this program called pillar RX

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it’s a coupon program that will assist

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the the um the employee and the retirees with trying to have low-cost options to

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uh to their prescription meds uh so this is a this is a year one implementation

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uh program uh we’re working uh as we speak on an opt-out policy so the

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opt-out policy in summary is uh it gives the ability for existing employees who

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are a part of our health insurance program who may have an alternative health insurance program stay with their

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spouse to incentivize them to opt out of the towns plan and then give them some

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type of stipend for opting out so a family plan is approximately 23 24 000 a

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year so if you know say we paid out a small sum of money for the for a person

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who’s on the family plan you know we could save anywhere from 20 to 18 to 20

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000 depending on what we finally agree on as far as the opt out so it could be significant savings depending on the

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number of people that enroll in that part in that program and then another prescription program is

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a supplemental Medicare Part D program for retirees that program along with the other two I

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just previously mentioned will all be implemented in Year One which again would have been the final

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year of the existing PEC agreement and so we wanted to move these savings up

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now instead of having to wait one year and so in year two

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we have a PPO plan so any existing

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employee who is enrolled in the PBO plan we will go to a 70 30 split in fy25 so

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which will be year two of this agreement currently that plan is a 75-25 split

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in addition to that any new employee who enrolls in the PPO plan will also

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participate in a 70 30 split and then we started to have some planned

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design changes they were minor but they do have some savings associated with those so the moving up to 100 on the

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co-pay program for Ed visits and then a 300 copay for any inpatient care

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I believe that’s currently a hundred dollars that one then and then again another prescription this

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is for the active employees another uh plan design change for their prescription plan uh which will affect

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some of their co-pays and that’s a tad program it’s very detailed um to get into

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and then the last year the agreement is so this is for all of our employees that

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are on the HMO plan we will move to a 70 30 split in FY 26.

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So currently the HMO plan is a 75-25 split and we’re going to move this to a

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70 30 split and so those are the those are the highlights of

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um what’s before you this evening to discuss and to hopefully vote in the

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affirmative on I have to say though the unions led by Mr pinto and his team of

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Union heads were very collaborative they were very engaged I’m happy to say

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we didn’t have to burn one dollar on getting attorneys involved in this in

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these negotiations so I want to thank them for all of their hard work in

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recognizing that this is a a Cooperative collaborative type of

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endeavor and they recognized that early on and I think we’ll all bear the fruit

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from those negotiations Penny any questions that’s all I have for this presentation

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I I don’t have any questions I just couple of comments and colleague to my left reminded me of a

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story from a few years ago so is it the time machine the PEC agreement

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from 15 to 18. was relatively simple and straightforward and

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comment from a prior colleague was that the cake was baked ahead of time so

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and that may be true but this one I mean I think this this agreement here

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certainly surpasses that agreement so uh full credit to all the individuals

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involved on the union side and on the select board and town staff because

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what they baked here is probably precedent setting and you know just uh

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it was a wedding I was impressed with the the timeliness and how quickly that this progressed and came to uh came to

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be so hats off to everyone involved yeah no I would agree I you know that um

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that was the reason why we all were comfortable with doing a six-year agreement

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because of the substantial benefit to the employees and um to our residents and our taxpayers so

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you know we thought that six years was was was an adequate um milestone

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okay I want to Echo what John said um this is a really great example of

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cooperation um and you know the the both the town

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and the unions getting together for the benefit of the residents and the taxpayers one question you may not be

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able to answer this for those viewing is there any not holding anybody to it but

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an idea of what savings might accrue

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I know that might be difficult but um just to give them some idea if we have an idea uh yeah so we I mean it’s kind

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of a ballpark idea only because um it depends on the number of enrollees

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and you know who takes family plan versus a single plan and who opts out and so on and so forth so you know we

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you know we’re thinking that so over the course of this period of time

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um over the six year period we’re projecting we could save upwards of about five million dollars over that six

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year period and again this is tier so we’re going to see some Savings in year one we’re going to see some Savings in year two and

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we’ll fully realize all those Savings in year three so those will be compounded over that period of time

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what on that comment Derek it’s not 5 million over six years once you get up

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to the full implementation in year three that’s five millions in savings annually I would say it’s probably not quite that

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high okay 5 million annually it’s probably closer to

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three and a half okay three and a half to three point eight again it just dependent on who enrolls into what

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programs who enrolls in the PPO program who enrolls in the HMO program okay

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okay and I want to say thank you to all involved Madam chair Derek Town staff

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um in the local group The Petco organization Dale I’m Tom Pinto Brian baruana the whole

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gang um and it’s nice to see and I’ve said it before um when I say things are quiet

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and this is a great example and it it leads right back to you also

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you and Brad and the staff everybody seems to be getting along and

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getting the job done I mean I remember staying at the table nicely you know I work for the taxpayers also so you know

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and it went you know it took a couple but uh every everything was respectful it went pretty pretty smooth and I think

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it’s out of the way and now you know you’ll have the regular contracts opening up and this is an app to dilute

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the waters up and it was done you know I’ve been to a few of these and this is

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probably the second most uh the first most organized I’ve ever seen everyone act respectable and it was nice I’m very

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proud again really like insane good job to you too thank you

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so um one of the things that I know that we have worked really hard on is Trust

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and I think we’re finally there I think that we trusted them to know what our

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circumstances were and they trusted us to be honest and say we’re we’re not

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here to hurt you so um one of the things that I know that was really important to uh Mr quintal

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and myself is the ability to help our retirees now uh the first thing is that

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if people will recognize is that there is something that will be put on our tax bills that people can donate to our

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senior population and another thing um Derek I don’t know if you could touch

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on it just because I know there’s messages coming in that are retirees so if you could just touch on the other

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program that we’re working on that I think will kind of

35:54

help them relax a little bit about it yeah no that’s a I’d love to talk about

35:59

that program so um you know I I think I’d stop by saying

36:04

that in my first year I I did as much as I could to try to meet

36:09

um agencies committees individuals where they’re at and I spent a lot of time

36:16

going to Priya meetings and um Silvio and Lynn Barrett and I we went to a

36:22

Priya meeting and we spent a lot of time listening to the retirees story and

36:28

they’re sometimes inability to pay for a basic prescription drugs and how

36:36

the previous PEC agreement just took a toll on their personal finances

36:43

and we didn’t make any promises coming out of the meeting but we took away and we really understood the struggles that

36:49

they were going through and so we three of us drove back to town hall and we started brainstorming what can we do for

36:55

the retirees and what we came up with was a program that we hope will be successful and we I don’t know a

37:01

community that has done this but what we want to do we want to have it be implemented effective July for us

37:07

is a program where all of our active employees in in retirees who want to participate as well can donate a sum of

37:15

money so I use for an example an individual can sign up into this program and donate one dollar per week an active

37:21

employee like myself one dollar per week into this fund and so we did quick back

37:26

of the napkin math and if if 75 percent of our school and town employees

37:31

participate in this we think we could generate one dollar per week upwards of fifty thousand dollars per year in this

37:36

special emergency fund just for retirees and the pre-aboard would manage these

37:45

dollars it’d still be you know that we would still hold the account and then individuals retirees who had a

37:53

significant need a medical need could apply for a sum of money to come from this

37:59

this emergency fund so if an individual needed eight hundred dollars to help pay for a prescription drug that was very

38:05

expensive they could apply to pre and Priya would vet that person and then would approve and then let us know that

38:12

person has been approved for a sum of money so are we going to work with Priya over the

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next month or so to finalize that policy and have it implemented by by July for

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us so when we presented this back to the folks at Priya Susan page and her team

38:30

they seem very interested in this because they again get back to your point

38:36

um it was all about trust and and they knew that we were doing everything in our power to help them as much as we possibly can

38:43

so more to come on that program but we’re hoping this is just kind of one of

38:49

many programs that we can roll out in future years so I I just want to say this and I’m not

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I don’t I’m not saying it to try to embarrass you or anything but you know yourself and Brad and Silvio and some of

39:05

our new staff members you’ve just made just a huge difference with the morale

39:11

in our employees and I think this board recognizes that and just to say thank

39:17

you and please keep up the good work because it’s important bad morale cost us money and we don’t need any more of

39:25

it we had plenty of it so the differences have shown employees are

39:30

happy basically happy there are some that are never happy but [Laughter]

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um but I I mean it’s a huge difference and I think you know I have no problem

39:44

on behalf of the board commending you all for it because it has made a big difference so thank you absolutely I

39:51

think a little bit of creativity and a little bit of communication and we can go a long way right

39:57

great well Sylvia

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Sylvia Janelle Human Resources Director I just want to Echo what everybody said already but um again thank you for all

40:11

the to all the groups who are involved in this active employee unions and the read Diaries because

40:17

um I just wanted to share this anecdote when I first started here and working in this agreement one of the things that

40:22

I’ve always heard was read Diaries always voted no on the PEC so one of the things that I’m most proud of was the

40:29

fact that the retirees voted for this PEC that like everybody’s saying we were

40:35

able to work together as a team earn that trust and hopefully that’ll help us

40:40

continue to improve benefits for our employees and our retirees because we have plenty of ideas that we’re going to

40:46

be working with our insurance advisory committee in the future so um and I also want to make sure that I

40:52

also thank the benefits administrator here for the town and for the schools who have the arduous work of

40:59

implementing this in the next couple of months so thank you to Jackie Gurney and Teresa Sears at the school side because

41:06

we’re going to have our open enrollment in May in our Affairs I think our open enrollment fair is going to be we’re

41:13

still working on the date but it’s going to be the first or second Tuesday in May so all of these things are happening in

41:19

sequence and again thank you to the board for helping with this because now that we have the agreement we can move forward with the implementation so thank

41:25

you everybody who was involved with this great and thank you Harry

41:31

I’d like to move that we approve the Public Employee committee agreement as

41:39

um as negotiated we have a motion from Mr Helms second in

41:44

from Mr Blitzer discussion all those in favor

41:50

it’s unanimous congratulations everybody job well done

41:57

the next is our town manager’s report all right I feel like I’m doing a lot of talking this evening

42:04

um all right so I I wanted to start with talking about the sewer Interceptor project so as you know we had some

42:12

settlement on March 7th which which Mr Brothers had reported on I have reported on since

42:17

the construction of that project ceased on that date it

42:24

still has not resumed our Engineers continue to work with Northern

42:31

Contracting their Engineers to try to identify a Way Forward

42:37

um they have recently sunk Wells along Water Street to try to monitor the

42:42

ground water levels so that they can get the groundwater levels to a a safe level

42:49

where they can restack Construction we’re not there yet we we don’t expect

42:54

to reset construction for at least another week as we monitor these Wells

42:59

um we we have committed to working with the business owners in the propionas on

43:06

Water Street we we will not resume construction without having

43:11

conversations with those Property Owners first so that they know what the plan forward is but at this time no work will

43:20

continue until we can get the the ground water to a point where we feel it’s safe

43:28

that there will not be any future settlement so there’s more to come on as soon Interceptor project

43:34

moving on the DPW has moved very quickly

43:39

you may have noticed on Court Street starting to install the pockets we have

43:46

nine restaurants who have asked to do the outdoor dining in the pocket so

43:51

we’re expecting those to be completed tomorrow or Thursday at the latest just

43:57

in time for 80 degree weather on Friday um we’re nearing completion of the the

44:03

flood wall project down at the The Pump Station you may notice that um the stone

44:10

facade is now almost complete we’re expecting full completion of that project within the next couple weeks

44:19

some of you may have received this little yellow card this is the yellow Cod we’ve talked

44:24

about in the past this is a community survey the the Plymouth senior task force

44:30

has distributed these to our residents this is encouraging folks to take the

44:36

survey there’s a QR code you can go directly to the to the to the survey or you can always send in a a mail-in

44:44

survey as well and that’ll help inform the Cal and the task force on becoming

44:50

an age and dementia from the community moving to White Horse Beach we have the

44:57

bid out for a parking enforcement so we’re expecting to open bids on May 12th just in time

45:02

for Memorial Day I wanted to bring up that um I may have

45:10

mentioned the past I’ve advocated with the board support working through Town Council working with rep miritari in

45:19

particular on trying to get a seat at the sampling table with whole Tech it

45:25

took a lot of work I know selectman Mahoney was also talking to folks who try to get whole Tech to commit to

45:33

allowing us to witness the sampling so we’ve completed that David Gould last

45:39

Wednesday attended in concert with Mass Department of Public Health Mass

45:45

Department of Environmental Protection on witnessing the sampling at the Taurus and the spent fuel pools he has reported

45:53

that they kept the samples in the line

45:58

of sight the entire time and things went extremely well so he’s confident that uh there’d be no tampering with those um

46:05

those samples hazardous waste day was last Saturday 225 Vehicles attended and the mosquito

46:13

control project was there as well where they picked up 275 vehicle tires why is that important

46:20

because um one of the primary mosquito breeding areas are in discarded tires and so as

46:29

you know mosquitoes are a vector for diseases like West Nile virus

46:36

and Triple E so removing 275 ties from our community I think will help mitigate

46:43

the proliferation of mosquitoes

46:49

the I talked about we’re going to do a presentation I think in May 6th I think we’re aiming for on some of our

46:56

technology upgrades so we’ve talked about the new website the new 3-1-1 program in opengov which is our online

47:05

permitting system so we’re going to do a presentation in a few weeks so you can kind of see in in real time

47:12

all of those new portals but I wanted to know that most recently the fire

47:17

department has enrolled in open gov so now we have our inspectional services department and now fire enrolled in open gov

47:24

the symes house irfp is due on April 28th so we’ll report back on any

47:30

prospective winning bidders on Sam’s house and then I think at least

47:37

the Chia will be happy to hear that we’re going to start doing on May 15th in-house Beach tickets again

47:44

so ask and you shall receive so I just want I know I kind of half joke on that but

47:50

you know I say to staff on a regular basis that we are working in the most difficult era I mean this is what I mean

47:58

so you have a population of people that only like to do things face to face

48:03

right and then you have another population of people that don’t even want to talk to anybody it’s like my son for example I gave him a 20 Bill to go

48:09

fill up his gas tank and he didn’t know what to do with the 20 bill because he’s used to using some plastic device to pay

48:15

for gas so we have to be nimble and flexible on our end to realize that we have two

48:22

different populations we’re trying to serve those who want to do things still in person and those who want to do things online in 30 years from now we

48:29

probably don’t have to worry about doing things in person because mostly everything will be online and the beach stickers is just another example you

48:35

know there was an idea to move Beach stickers just online and what we realized over time is that there’s a

48:40

population that still want to come in and get their Beach deck in hand and so we’re trying to be responsive to

48:46

everyone’s needs in the community so be patient we’ll continue to make progress

48:52

in the areas that we can and then last I want to just raise the issue of Well

48:58

normally we would say is poor lighting over here on South Russell Street this was a complaint that was brought forward

49:05

folks in the planning department took a look at that under Lee Hartman’s watch and this

49:13

just this past week we now have three additional street lights on South

49:19

Russell to brighten it up especially when you look behind the Gunther Tooties area it’s always very very dark so

49:25

trying to make it a little bit safe we’ve heard from merchants and restaurant owners that

49:31

their employees won’t Park on South Russell just because they don’t want to

49:36

walk up South Russell because it was so dark so hopefully with this new lighting we’ll Advance some public safety issues

49:44

uh so pending any questions that’s all I have for this evening [Music]

49:50

I got two two questions Derek first of all what kind of cat is your son drive the 20 bucks fills it up

49:56

I want to get that I want to get that yeah and give us give us the money I’d say it was a prettiest line

50:03

the outdoor dining I noticed there’s not any how many nine nine of them yes so if

50:10

they don’t get the packlets does that mean there’s no sidewalk tables right you

50:16

have to have a packlet to have outdoor dining that’s a great question so Mr Brothers is actually working on we’re thinking

50:22

maybe next week or the week after we’re going to bring to the board a recommendation because what we’re

50:28

standing to see is that some restaurants want to go back to the pre-covered days where there was just sidewalk dining

50:34

there’s a couple restaurants haven’t expressed that interest but we don’t have a fee for that and then there’s

50:39

other restaurants who have food establishments that they don’t really have dining but they put tables and chairs in the public way for takeout

50:47

purposes so Mr Brothers is working on a fee structure

50:53

that is appropriate for the takeout tables and chairs and for tableside

51:00

dining on the sidewalk so we’ll have basically a three-tier structure one for Pockets which you’ve

51:06

already approved at twenty five hundred dollars a year one for table side dining so those restaurants I just want to put

51:12

a couple tables and chairs and serve their food and drinks like alcohol on the sidewalk and then just a third lower

51:19

tier for folks that just want to have something more as um as a

51:25

a place for people to sit and eat and take out sandwich or a drink or

51:30

something I I think we have to be real careful because the reason for the packlets was

51:35

to make it uniforms and you know make it all look good and also keep the

51:41

sidewalks open so we got to be real careful uh allowing sidewalk cables I mean certainly we’ll

51:48

defer to the board whatever the board decides you want to do if you want to keep the sidewalks open I

51:55

just would be mindful we have restaurants using the sidewalks for different purposes you know so no I

52:01

understand the a couple tables for takeout I get that that’s I don’t even care if there’s a fee for that but the

52:08

ones that want to put tables they don’t want to practice because they don’t want to pay a fee

52:14

I I don’t think that’s right I think we should just put them in the packlets and

52:19

and uh and and pay whatever the fee is the fee is very reasonable for what you get

52:24

I believe so but we’re just going to be careful because uh it you know like get out of control

52:30

there it was it was it was you know unorganized it looked lousy and the

52:36

whole purpose of this packlet program with the flowers is just to make it look nice make that downtown area look nice

52:42

so I don’t want to take a step back because some people feel they don’t want to pay a fee and they’re just going to

52:49

throw tables up there because it’ll it’ll get out of control believe me anyway thank you

52:56

you know on that subject I agree with with Mr bletzer um you know the reason for what we did

53:04

the outdoor dining committee was to create an environment that was uh you

53:10

know respectable um and we did very successfully um we were even in the Boston papers for

53:17

having navigated this correctly and come up with a very beautiful uniform

53:23

concept one of the main underlying concepts with that when we

53:30

when people were doing this willy-nilly they were not observing ADA compliance

53:36

right okay they were putting umbrellas up at at four feet you know it was all

53:42

over the place so if you’re gonna go ahead you remember that you know you

53:49

gotta you gotta have a certain amount of space for people to travel um it can’t be a serpentine through

53:56

their property it has to be a straight line Etc so just just giving you a heads up on that yeah one last thing too I’m

54:03

sorry they before covert we didn’t have tables in the sidewalks there was no outdoing up to a dining in

54:10

the downtown except San Diego’s had had an outdoor area but that was already part of their part of their lease that

54:16

was closed and it was on their property so we didn’t have tables on the sidewalk before that this

54:24

idea came in response to restaurants that didn’t feel the need to have this

54:29

large pocket in front of their restaurant but rather wanted to put a couple tables and chairs on the sidewalk

54:35

and I agree it’s got to be accessible this is why there’d be a fee Associated because we have to send folks out there

54:41

to do the inspection but at the end of the day if the board wants to prohibit all tables and chairs on the sidewalks

54:48

well we’re happy to enforce that regulation we have no problem with that

54:55

but we just need to be we have to be able to respond to those restaurants who are seeking tables and

55:01

chairs on the sidewalk and if the answer is the board is prohibiting that then then that’s the answer

55:08

great [Music]

55:15

um on a different subject um it’s you know as you’re aware um it’s come to our attention that we

55:23

have approximately a dozen um video units around town that are

55:30

capable of storing video for 10 days these were put up by the DPW and they’re

55:37

monitoring intersections and things like that but we’ve become aware that a policy set by

55:45

the previous Town manager has prohibited the DPW sharing that video information

55:51

with the police department um I’ll leave my editorial opinion on

55:57

that alone and just ask do you have an update on this situation yes I do so um

56:02

it was brought to the police department’s attention at a meeting last week so we have this graffiti task force

56:09

now that the board had asked for and at that meeting it was learned by the police department that we have 11

56:14

cameras at 11 different intersections and the DPW representative had said that

56:21

they were directed not to share that information with the police department so um

56:27

when we look at the number of man hours that could have been lost say that there was like a two-car vehicle accident and

56:34

have to reconstruct that accident without having that footage um we’ve realized that there’s a more

56:42

efficient way of of doing business and so we I’m meeting with the DPW I’m meeting with the chief and there’s going

56:49

to be a training to be able to allow the police department to have access to that footage when necessary

56:56

so basically you’ve rescinded that order yes

57:05

sometimes you just have to shake your head and say nothing

57:11

it is hard it really is hard for me um Mr Mahoney

57:17

so I just wanted to follow up on one thing from Tom eating and

57:26

the individual to my left has more experience than I do and when I first got elected to the board uh one of the

57:33

other senior members of the board would tell a story about the sustainability of Enterprise funds and I’ve mentioned this before but

57:40

the gold standard back then was the Airport Enterprise fund so I was caught off guard I attended a

57:47

fair amount of the caucuses probably 50 to 80 percent and

57:53

to hear out there was some level of consternation among certain town meeting members that

58:00

the Airport Enterprise fund was not completely sustainable there was a the number being bandied

58:07

about was 450 to 460 000 general fund subsidy so I thought to I thought that

58:14

the air when I first got on the board and Mr Quinter was there we put together a three-year plan based on what we are

58:21

told that the gold standard had been set a decade or two before by the airport Commission

58:27

Solid Waste Water and Sewer the last time they got a general fund subsidy was fy12 so we’re going almost 12 fiscal

58:35

years ago okay so it was it was I was happy to see the finance director

58:40

get up and say that last year or the fiscal year we’re currently in there was a 240

58:47

000 subsidy town meeting just signed off on an 80 000 subsidy for FY 24 and the

58:54

intent is to come back a year from now for fy25 and look for zero so I’m hoping

59:00

that makes everybody happy because I think that the airport Commission in that Enterprise fund took some

59:05

unnecessary hits I think Mr ma was out there for almost 30 years that they do a phenomenal job

59:10

in my opinion obviously when you know they go to invest in infrastructure 90 I

59:16

believe comes from the feds five percent comes from the Commonwealth and I think you know

59:21

typically you know that Enterprise fund is coming up with our five percent match locally so

59:28

that was that was my little editorial on Tom meeting thank you

59:36

just John I mean I believe an Enterprise fund

59:42

should sustain itself with no general fund

59:47

you know so we’re 15 months away we should have never gone there

59:54

but that’s okay like I said sometimes I just have to shake my head

59:59

and say nothing

1:00:09

Betty Madam chair business

1:00:18

can you put your mic on thank you well maybe I shouldn’t be saying

1:00:24

anything um so that was a little bit of the Town managers and the select board open

1:00:29

discussion I do have something for new business old business

1:00:36

um the signage and bathrooms for White Horse Beach the bathrooms are to be

1:00:44

placed May 1st the the Porta trailer thing there and I do

1:00:53

believe that we should have some signage up there to let people know that the fines are now a hundred dollars

1:01:00

so if we could get those made as well um happy to do all that we actually I

1:01:07

don’t know if I mentioned this but um we have we we are meeting the end of this month to with all of the permanent

1:01:14

departments to have what was titled A Summer prependers meeting bringing fire police DPW and natural resources all in

1:01:23

the room to check off all those boxes so when the summer hits you know we go and

1:01:30

it’s interesting because I asked the question when I was at a meeting last week a recreation director when did you

1:01:36

guys normally have this meeting was it an April is it in May and she said never so

1:01:41

um we’re gonna do that so we’re so we’re all on the same page and everybody knows

1:01:46

exactly what has to get done so we’re ready for Memorial Day oh and one more thing we don’t need 300 barrels on White

1:01:54

Horse Beach if you don’t mind

1:02:00

um anything else anybody Mr quintal

1:02:06

thank you here on the street this week

1:02:12

um and it could be old news new news could be just hearsay right exactly but

1:02:18

the the Benny’s parcel is for sale and I think you know as the town looked

1:02:25

at that at all in any way because if the wrong thing goes there it could be detrimental to the child I mean

1:02:33

really that’s the gateway to the waterfront and there’s so many uses at the town

1:02:39

this town could use that parcel how do you say John 20 years from now no

1:02:45

but I mean whether it’s you know just something to look at I don’t know and about price but Foundation

1:02:53

you know CPC the town itself we have to start looking at stuff especially a

1:02:58

pasta like that that’s right next to the Waterfront that would alleviate a lot of the parking

1:03:04

issues for the future um we know the executive sessions we had we had a lot of conversation about

1:03:11

parking um so this is the I don’t know well the Benny’s whole that whole plasma

1:03:19

is for sale oh I wasn’t aware of that okay so I think it’s you know we need to look at it you know and if we

1:03:26

can’t we can’t but at least we gave it a shot you know I won’t forget we lost the one on Nelson Street there right in front of

1:03:32

Nelson Park because we thought 200 000 a little too much money

1:03:38

um and it wasn’t we lost that parcel so the second thing speaking Apostles is

1:03:45

I’m here in Sacred Heart the soul are under agreement soon to sell their

1:03:50

property but naturally that’s in Kingston but the location of that piece of property a

1:03:56

butts West Plymouth hide like right there so I think we should reach out to

1:04:02

Kingston uh if King’s interested in working together to see if there’s something we can do

1:04:08

with that puzzle and you know I’m not going to say a cemetery because that’s what happened with my sandwich Road they

1:04:13

took that and they ran with it but there might be something even if it’s just preservation I I don’t

1:04:19

know the Apostle is under agreement right now right but I don’t think it’s got all the teeth yet so you know right

1:04:26

they’re proposing I think I want to say it’s around 100 units to development in that Valley know that

1:04:33

because they asked if they could tie into our water system and I hope you said no

1:04:39

I wouldn’t say you need to vote when I said work well it wasn’t for that

1:04:45

that’s the exact opposite I I’m just very worried about the expense it would have on our town is going to be

1:04:51

crazy yeah I did talk to the time manager in Kingston about that parcel and I did mention to him that the

1:04:58

developer came forward and presented to liham and myself this proposal and they wanted to tie into our

1:05:05

water system and I explained to them what’s going on with that water system and that there was almost a zero percent

1:05:13

probability that the select board would agree to tie into that water system I explained that to the top manager so I

1:05:19

haven’t talked to him since so I don’t know where that project is going they do have the ability to single well though

1:05:24

on that property well it’s huge that’s why I’m bringing it up yeah I mean you know I say Cemetery only because a mixed

1:05:32

use a county use maybe the county could get access to funds with the state and and make it for

1:05:39

the county I mean any you know the crazy housing everywhere I mean we need housing I know that but I think what

1:05:46

we’re putting in that whole corner with the woods whether it’s Plymouth or Kingston is just way out of control

1:05:51

right I mean you know and I think it and I’m glad you had a conversation and I

1:05:57

think we need to have more with our neighbors and work together to see if we can both find something that’s

1:06:04

halfway good for everybody and then the last thing and I didn’t hear this one and nobody’s

1:06:11

approached me but if we were to lose a town planner in our town which would be Mr Hartman

1:06:18

um there’s been things that you know and he hasn’t said it to me but you know I’ve been hearing little things he’s going to retire the thing that

1:06:25

worries me is you know if Lee does retire and it’s just right I mean who’s

1:06:31

where do we get the replacement there’s nobody I don’t think under him and I think you know we need to look and

1:06:37

bring somebody in a year in advance to work side of him and to know the ins and outs of this town because this is a big

1:06:43

one and before we had like Jack Lennox I think it was Lee was under under Jack

1:06:49

right yeah and um I’ve never really searched for a town manager so and you know I

1:06:56

know the town planner Town plan I’m sorry you search for plenty time oh yeah yeah I said it wrong

1:07:02

thank you so I mean I you know he didn’t say it and I don’t want to put it out there I know he’s thinking about it and

1:07:09

I I think we need to address that and have the money set aside how you need to have the money set aside so whatever the

1:07:16

search is it it happens and when he’s ready the town will be ready because that’s one we can’t just let go by the

1:07:23

wayside that’s yeah I mean if I could respond to that I agree um the town and the next I would say two

1:07:30

to four years is going to potentially see some significant institutional

1:07:36

knowledge leave and you look at the experience with former

1:07:43

Chief Bradley and having to get special legislation keep him here an additional two years just for that and we should

1:07:49

have started playing with that early earlier on and um we are happy to set up a succession

1:07:55

plan because you know you talk about Lee Hammond in in his 25 plus years of

1:08:01

service to the town and you know other department heads we just lost Barry de

1:08:06

Blasio 20 plus years of service to the town so we’re going to continue to see that turn over the next couple of years

1:08:12

so I agree I think we need to have a a solid succession plan in place

1:08:17

but that’s going to cost money and that’s why I’m bringing it up sometimes you know it can cost us a lot more money

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if our mistakes are made so you know you get what you pay for agreed you know and

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um the last thing was you know just a touch up and I’m waiting to see how the DPW rolls out and what happens there and

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we always had an assistant DPW director and I think in I hope that in the next

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succession plan or whatever’s going to happen over there with the new director that there’s an assistant and that in

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the case we lose the director the assistant could step in place I mean the

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town’s like way too big not to we are hoping in the next two weeks we will

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have some announcements for DPW and Community Resources and other places that we need to fill vacancies I mean I

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I can tell you one thing right now is Sheila scazi who’s our acting dvw Doctor Who’s doing a phenomenal job but she’s

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wearing multiple hats she’s wearing a DPW drive to have the assistant DBW director had James Downey has now filled

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the role as the acting Town engineer so you know they they are all trying to do

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the best that they can so we recognize that and we know that we need to start filling some of those vacancies as soon as possible

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so we’re working on it well I don’t want to sound like I’m telling you how to do your job I’m just putting my two cents

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in foreign that’s when I go home no I don’t bother that’ll happen when I get home

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thank you yeah I just want to uh kind of follow up

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and add something to Mr quintal’s um note noting of the uh

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um the Thorndike project at Sacred Heart um

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the amount of traffic that that will

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increase will be on the roads of Plymouth they’re not heading to Kingston maybe

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they will every once in a while to go pay their bills at Town Hall but all the shops the access to the

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expressways everything is through Plymouth do they have any plans to number one improve that intersection

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which is a nasty intersection to begin with but also Aid in whatever is needed

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because of the additional traffic on our roads sidewalks things like that I mean yes we do we do gain from the traffic to

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our businesses and our stores but we have the additional costs involved in

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all of that traffic basically being over Plymouth roads you know I mean I don’t want to

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disparage Kingston it’s certainly lovely but there’s not a lot of reason to go there when you’ve got Colony Place down

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the street and the access to the expressways um that’ll be the major traffic yeah it’s a point well taken and those

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conversations haven’t taken place I mean as as you know so I can help they’re

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going to go through their typical planning board process their zba process and and not come through our process but

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normally we would be having those conversations we’d be talking about traffic mitigation and pedestrian

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improvements in that area and unfortunately um I don’t think there’s EBA or the

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Kingston planning board is considering our needs but uh you know when they came to ask us for access to our water they

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didn’t come with anything like you know what we understand the impact of this

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development on Plymouth and we will We would like to discuss how

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we can help mitigate that impact or they just came and asked for water they talked about mitigation dollars for

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water but not for anything but nothing about no acknowledgment of any other

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aspects of reality of that development just water mitigation dollars yeah wow

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great anyone else well I know there’s a woman

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that would like to say something um she came in a little late if if you

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don’t no problem for whatever reason I had it in my mind that you started at seven

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can you hear me now yep okay um I just wanted to briefly can you please state your name and make sure oh

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yes Jerry Duncan District three uh yeah and a resident here on Siever Street in

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Plymouth right up the street so um I wanted to come and briefly talk about the Allerton and Seaver Street Park that

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we’ve talked about here before with many more people in the room um I know a decision was made to invest

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money to replace the fence and install a new park and they’ve done some of that

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work and I’m sure they’re going to be completing it this spring I I know that the park right now

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according to the signage that was put up has been planned for the

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northeast corner of the park to put it up at the northeast corner right the playground and so my concern

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with that is having lived here for 25 years now that end of the park has had

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sinkholes for 25 years there have been at least 12 of them there was one just

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last winter that was at least four feet deep I would say probably five feet long

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two three feet wide and so to put that playground equipment on that end of the

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park worries me I think we’re going to make an investment that isn’t going to make a lot of sense because if it if it click caves out

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underneath and you’ve put a nice ground down that’s a lot of work to pick up the park

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and you know fix it and and then you’re going to have another sinkhole because apparently when they filled that

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Reservoir in they just threw in branches and I don’t want to yeah all kinds of

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stuff got thrown in their their air pockets so I was just asking that it’d be

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considered to move it to the other end of the park where it originally was and

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also um I know the number one time of day that that playground was always used was

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when the kids were waiting for the school bus and the bus stop is at the other end of the park so I think it just

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makes a lot of sense to consider that location because the last thing we want to do after everything

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else that’s gone on is put a beautiful playground in there and then have a problem with it and have to put up

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yellow tape and nobody can play with it for a year you know so that’s it okay

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thank you thank you could you take a look at that Derek thank you

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all right anybody else with anything then I look for a motion to adjourn

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all those in favor unanimous thank you everyone