Agenda – Select Board Agenda June 20 2023

Official Minutes – Plymouth Select Board Minutes 6-20-23

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23 please join the board in a pledge to the

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flag IED allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

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Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and

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justice for

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all I just want to note for the record after

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the meeting the board uh will be going in executive session to finish uh 16 Town w we didn’t have time

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to complete that and we didn’t want to keep all you folks waiting too long too

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long so we’re going to go to licens administrative notes first we have any questions from board

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members did you want to take take any of them

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separate if not I wait for a

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motion motion by Mr bletzer second second by Mr Helm discussion this is

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just on the two licenses Mr chairman yes Mr chairman does this include

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permits as well well I I asked actually now that John brought up looking at I’m looking at this list here it was I asked

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for a motion for license and administrative notes but whatever the board’s pleasure it’s fine with me you

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just need to do you want to do them separate John I just wanted Clarity on

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the motion I I’m not looking for that okay all right so was your motion to

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move it all Charlie no I’d like to uh license and permits the

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administrative notes are you going to you going to read those individuals off that they’re going to get appointed and

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we’ll vote them all together or yeah we I think for the record you should do that okay so LIC the uncontested so

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licens as permits as your motion yes and that’s I second second that

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discussion Mr bletzer yes Mr Helm yes Mr KY yes Mr Mahoney yes and my myself yes

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unanimous permits good now the administrative

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notes excuse me everybody is mumbling and can hear you so I don’t know if the

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mics are on but the captioning is not on and I apologize for interrupting but we

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heard nothing of the discussion my hearing aids are working I asked other people around could

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and okay let see if we turn that up a little for

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you you can talk louder I do it at

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work you turn it up can you all hear me now okay do you want Charlie to read yes

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I do Mr blo would you read the the list of appointments you want the

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appointments so this is under administrative notes the board board will vote to

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appoint the following people to the boards and committees as described 1749 Courthouse committee

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Cindy Walsh three-year term affordable housing trust Joseph aserado three-year

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term a agricultural commission Autumn deito three-year

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term agricultural commission Christopher BAU three-year term airport commission

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Douglas crusat three-year term airport commission Ken farx three-year term border of Health

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there’s three positions David golden Teresa Reid Deborah Zona all three-year

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terms building committee two positions Thomas fugazi and David moodi both

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three-year terms cable advisory committee Paul McGee threeyear term as

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well as Shawn Mullen three-year term the cemetery committee there’s three appointments Mary aini Frank drolette

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Everett malagi the first two aini and drolette three-year terms Everett’s a two-year term Center for active living

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Advisory Board Kathy castagna three-year term Center for active living Advisory

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Board Dan Dan Holland three-year term cultural Council there two positions

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Megan champagne and Deborah stel both threeyear terms energy committee majie

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Burgess oneyear term term energy committee Everett melodi uh two uh two-year term Chris

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mola energy committee two-year term energy committee John Mills uh Mills

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three-year term Jack wette three-year term and Ron dooski an alternate for

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one-year term for the dod pack committee

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Sandy B Laura three-year term I hope I didn’t mess that up but the Little Red

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School House there’s two uh positions on that committee Frank McKenna and Lawrence whan they’re both three-year

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terms the no place for hate committee Michelle terella Venture is a three-year

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term Plymouth sener steering committee Harrison Quinn three-year term White

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Horse Beach parking we have 1 2 3 4 five 6 7 8 n uh eight positions it’s da the

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dawn Smith for three years Christine barik three years Nancy Kini

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three years Cheryl Damiano two years Ron de brosi twoyear term Charlie oook

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two-year term Deborah garriston oneyear term and Kelly McDonald for a one-year

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term water conservation is Christine Danielson for a three three-year

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term the boat will the board will vote to amend the structure of the energy

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committee to have five full voting members and have up to two alternate members compared to the current seven

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full voting members the board will vote to authorize the request of an installation of a rainbow crosswalk on

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Water Street pending the completion of the water sore Interceptor Improvement

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project as determined by the Department of Public Works the board will vote to approve and authorize the town of

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Plymouth give exclusive vending rights to the Plymouth Fourth of July parade Organization for the Fourth of July

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parade in event EV held on Tuesday July 4th 2023 the board will vote to execute the

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fiscal year 2022 through fiscal year 2024 Police Department collective

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bargaining agreement the board will authorize the application for and if awarded acceptance of a grant in the

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amount of $6,6 a361 through the mass interlocal

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Insurance Association the board will accept the a gift in the amount of

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$11,000 from the Harvard Museum of Science and culture to the Marine

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environmental Affairs gift account for the for use towards future Town

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environment environmental activities the board will accept the Grant in the amount of

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$510,300 public health initiative and finally the board will

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vote to approve and execute the partially executed letter agreement for 83 Court Street Memorial Hall with

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T-Mobile USA Tower LLC in connection with extending extending the

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lease until uh 202 June

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2024 I’ll make that I’ll make a motion to approve

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as a group I second second by Mr Helm

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discussion Mr bletzer yes Mr Helm yes Mr KY yes Mr Mahoney yes and myself yes

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unanimous next we have the board and committee appointments the first one up

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is the community preservation committee for one full seat one threeyear ter

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term and we have two applicants Joan

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botet hi Joan and Betty kavako would you would you like to say

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anything Joan Mr chairman I’d like to hear from the candidates

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yeah

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just make sure the uh green light’s on it is can you hear me yes okay thank you

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for hearing me today I’ve been on the CPC for about 18 years and I would very

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much appreciate continuing on for another term should you like me

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to Plymouth voted to accept the CPA more than 20 years ago one of the things I’m

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proud of is strongly supporting a one and a half% out of the 3% sech charge

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allowed for property taxes I felt it protected the taxpayers it was proven to be a Sound

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Investment we were one of the earliest towns in the state to accept the

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CPA the results include adding over 2,00 acres of land that’s open space

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supporting the restoration of some of the most historic buildings on the South Shore creating housing for emergency

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housing for the homeless to PE and to people starting out looking for affordable

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housing I’ve been able to help the CPC by writing and Publishing our

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activities such as documenting uh reclaimed material for the quote the

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quote New Town Hall which is where we’re all sitting now this place where we’re

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meeting putting together two Publications that document all CPA

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activities and town meeting actions from 2002 to

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2023 we could have hired someone to do this but we have found it’s much more

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efficient to have the committee responsible for these actions to record its action

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also we found it extremely cost-saving for the town the CPA in pth has been an

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example to the state of the possibilities for many

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communities we as a committee have done this out of our own passion for the town

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and for our future Generations so they can see and enjoy the benefits of what

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we have done and how we’ve done it although I’ve worked on this commit

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committee for 18 years I still have something to offer the love for this

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town its people and for CPC that has done so much for our town thank you very

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much thank

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you hold on joh okay any questions from Mr Mr Mr

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chairman Charlie uh Joan I just first of all I want to thank you for your your

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years of service 15 years volunteering uh is you should be commended for this thank you and uh I’d

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like to ask you uh what What’s your greatest accomplishment on the CPC and

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what is your biggest failure do you think with the CPC the biggest

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accomplishment I don’t know I love the Spire theater I mean it’s not done yet but it’s on its way

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and the Arts Center and uh I love the large amounts of of um

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open space we’ve saved for conservation it’s disappointing that

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it’s taken so long for Steven field to to happen but I understand why it has

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you know we’ve had trouble with weather and um just various things that have

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gone on that that’s hold held us back

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is that enough no that yeah that if that’s what you want to say that’s fine absolutely thank

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you any other questions see you none thank you Joe thank

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you Mrs

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kako thank you Mr chairman and the rest of the Plymouth select board I’m not sure

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you remember me my name is Betty kavako um I’ve been a I am now a town

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meeting member and served um with all of you most of you on previous boards um

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I’m interested in being on the CPC because I feel that uh we’ve come to a

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position where we’re rather stagnant um as serving on the sele board there were

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many things that we were aware of that were PL problematic um and I think that having a

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new vision for the way this organization should move forward is really important

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um I appreciate Miss Miss Bartlett’s 18 years of service it’s wonderful I’ve

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only done six years of public service but I think it’s time that we move

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forward um I I’m very concerned about the actions as of

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late from the CPC and as you well know um there’s that’s something that I want

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to work with and I think we need better communication I think we need a more

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cohesive relationship with not only the town manager but Town staff and I just

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don’t see that right now and I want to be able to work towards that because the CPC is a very important committee that

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we have in this town so if you anybody has any questions I’m

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more than happy to answer them

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John uh Miss kavako in the interest of communication and fostering a better

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relationship with Town Hall are you going to be comfortable with meetings being open

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up to the public with having department heads in specifically maybe the town manager are you going to be against

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applicants who have have a standing application in front of the committee coming in front of the committee and communicating with the community the

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committee as a whole so the end and then on top of that um allowing the public

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and committee members to participate remotely are those things that you’re going to be

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against no I I want to make something perfectly clear we’re a team whether

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people want to agree to it or not we have to work together and every sing

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single person in this community the 65 almost thousand residents should have

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the ability to speak at any of our public meetings unless of course it’s an an executive session so Town staff as

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far as I’m concerned Town staff should have an agenda item on all of our meetings if the if the boards want that

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it’s important CPC is really important and one of the main reasons why I

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decided to put my name on the CPC is some of the actions that had been taken

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recently in the town or the CPC violating the procurement law 30b

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recently we can’t do business like that anymore this isn’t a small mom and pop

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organization we have to do business we have to do it lawfully and we have to have the public involved anytime they’re

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able to be so I I hope that answers your question yes thank

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you Mr blater yeah hi Betty how you doing uh same question to you first of

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all I know Jan’s very popular uh this room is packed with and I get a ton of

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emails from folks supporting Joan uh but this is not about the popularity uh

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contest this is about uh who I think the best person is to uh to help the CPC uh in certain ways like for instance

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creating affordable housing I think it’s very important and I think we’ve lacked that’s one thing we’ve lacked also uh uh

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some of the bu buying buildings we haven’t did a good good job with some of the building purchases I know Mr

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Williams was concerned about the S house he brought it up at town meeting and uh

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so uh that that’s that’s a problem I my question to you is what if if

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you if you’re on the CPC what do you think you can do do better to help that

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committee I I think I think absolutely it’s communication um I mean this is a group

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of people that get together you know volunteer their own time but there are

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certain factions in play that really um

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I’m trying to say this as kindly as possible there are certain factions in

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play that don’t allow free speech of board members and I think it’s important

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that everybody has a voice everybody should say something and you’re right Charlie I mean our affordable housing it

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should be much further than it is um you know some of the projects Stevens Field

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SIMS house you know we’re at a Crossroads with the SIMS house now nobody knows quite exactly what to do

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with it it went out for an RFP if I’m correct that nobody took it so maybe

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that’s another area that we could think about maybe that should be affordable housing there as well but I think as

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most of you know is that I don’t sit back and idly wait for things to happen

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I I like to do things and if I had to sit on my hands and not be able to do

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things it would be absolute torture for me so so and I thank you for that one

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last thing uh is I want to make it clear before public comment happens at some point

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tonight because I’m not going to respond to public comments uh but I could just

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I’m going to let everybody know in this room that this the appointments tonight are not

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politically driven okay I commend uh I commend uh Miss B Miss batet for her

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service I really do and I’m not this is not an attack a personal attack on her at all I just think we need some changes

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on this board we really do we need some new ideas on the board it’s as simple as

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that and but it’s not this is not political if somebody wants to make a political

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well so be it there’s nothing I can do about that but with the way I vote in in all these appointments I’m taking

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politics out of it I’m voting for the best person that I think can help the town of Plymouth thank

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you I have big shoulders Charlie I can handle it Mr

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Helm um Miss kavako let’s let’s

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take a specific look at a specific project one that you’re familiar with I think everybody in town is familiar with

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and I doubt that many people can call it a success the SIMS house if you were on

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the CPC when during the years that was under consideration for the initial takeover

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than for the ask for an additional what $3 million what would you have done

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different and how would you have seen that difference making the SIMS

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house successful well honestly Harry I’m going to be honest with you and I attended

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many of those SIMS house meetings I was never in support of the Town purchasing that home to begin with um as a matter

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of fact I was actually had the opportunity if I personally wanted to

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purchase that house way back maybe in John’s time machine um for

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$175,000 so um I would not have supported that I still question where

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all the money went into that building and now it’s it reminds me of The Money

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Pit that movie The Money Pit we don’t know where to go with it um we had I

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know um Mr zeri and Miss bues were on that committee to find best use we tried

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to find best use there is no best use for it from what you know what everybody

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is saying so uh quite honestly I don’t even know where we should go I think at

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this point if I were just a resident I’d be saying take a loss and put it up for

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sale because it’s it’s going to bleed the town dry unless we can make affordable housing which would be my

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opinion but it it all comes at a cost yeah quick follow so I guess this is a

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yes or no Betty are you saying in your answer that

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that there is nothing you believe could possibly have been done by the committee

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to actually make the sign’s house a success in your opinion which committee the the the CPC

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the CPC um I think they should have put I I

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think it should have been the original plan they should put a commercial kitchen in there I think that would have been a revenue stream I don’t know if it

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would have been successful cuz I’m actually surprised at the epic failure that it has become so I mean maybe there

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are different things that we could have put in there but everything that people were suggesting to put in there because

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I was all for it when they were going to put in a commercial kitchen because that is a revenue stream and and if people

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understand what that’s all about now that’s actually a booming business to find someplace for a commercial kitchen

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but they took that out and they kept taking out things that the residents were more concerned of so as the CPC if

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I couldn’t have gotten everything that was intentionally there as a CPC member I would have voted against the purchase

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of it thank you Mr

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KY good evening Miss kavako good evening sir uh so in preparation for tonight’s

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hearing I went onto the town website which is much more searchable than the old website I looked into the town

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meeting archive and I looked at the town meeting warrants for the past eight years back to April of

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2015 um CPC has had 79 articles over the

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last eight years building on a theme started by uh Mr bletzer and continued

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by Mr Helm uh I was looking primarily at the issue of affordable housing uh

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previously having served on the advisory and finance committee I would hear all the CPC articles and I thought that

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there was fewer affordable housing articles than there should have been I think the data uh demonstrates that as well a

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total of 49 units have been added in the last eight years through CPC articles in

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the last three years only one article has come forward article 16a of the

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April annual town meeting of 2021 added 16 units at Carver Landing um obviously I ran recently on a

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platform of smart and balanced development affordable housing was a big part of that affordable housing provides

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a valid a vital service to people that need it as well as helping the town to avoid 40 bees that take away our ability

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to use our land as we would like to do so so you mentioned in the SIMS house getting to my question um that you would

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like to see affordable housing there could you speak about affordable housing more broadly because I think personally

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having seen these CPC articles over the years that there’s a lot of people on CPC right now uh that are very Pro open

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space Recreation they do a great job on historic personally I think affordable

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housing is where the Gap is here um so can you speak to if you were given this

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position um where would affordable housing r in your priorities what would

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you like to see happen with affordable housing from the CPC well I mean I served on the CPC as

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liaison um from the select board for three years and it’s an organization

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they do a lot of great work um affordable housing should really be our

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priority but actually so it is actually affordable um and you’re right 40 BS

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have taken over we have no control over it so my priority would be to that

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affordable housing would be the top priority over everything else I mean I understand open space and Recreation

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Recreation is pretty important too and so is open space but there has to be

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there has to be a new thought process like do we are we going to buy buildings

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just to buy buildings or we going to buy buildings to put affordable housing or

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is an open space parcel a place where we can build affordable housing so I think

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there’s a lot of um details that we kind

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of get lost in the minutia of what CPC really is but I think as a group and I

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certainly know I would be a proponent of making affordable housing actually a priority because we do have a lot of

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folks that depend on it I mean and everything is taking so long although

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Oak Street was a great project I believe Mr Mahoney and I were on that board um

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when that went through and but it still hasn’t come to fruition so we got to

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find out what what these gaps are and what are creating these processes to

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take so long um so I hope that I mean

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affordable housing is definitely one of my priorities okay thank you and and yes uh

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Oak Street School was Article 9d of the o October annual town meeting of 2019 um

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so I I agree that that has taken a while but at least it’s in the pipeline but there should be more in the pipeline um

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an issue that I’ve heard through the grape vine and seen to a little bit uh

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as well from talking to Liaison past members and people who have appeared before the CPC is a lack of and John

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asked it as part of his bundle of questions earlier um but presentations

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by uh applicants to the CPC I don’t think that’s happening now I’m not sure

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how that’s not happening but if you were on the CPC would that happen would applicants would you advocate for

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applicants to be given an open here 150% everybody should have a voice

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everybody thank you and then most recently the CPC uh did not put forward

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articles at the April town meeting they missed a deadline uh that they were notified about um the select board

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actually I was at the meeting I wasn’t on the board at the time as you were the select board actually seemed to want

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them to ask for a waiver and they declined to do so which means they don’t have they won’t have a budget after July

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1st until 10 days after the fall annual town meeting correct which is very

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bizarre and not setting us up well for solving affordable housing in the future or any of the other issues that the uh

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CPC addresses um if you were on the CPC would the would would you make it a

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priority that the CPC not miss any further deadlines I I believe that the CPC should have a six Monon um six month

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ahead of each there’s no reason why they have to wait for any certain amount of

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time like two months before why not we know what articles are coming forward we

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know what the applications are they should be we should be putting those forward immediately it there shouldn’t

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be a time frame except of course for the deadline but we could put that forward a year in

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advance if we wanted to if we knew that’s what it was going to be so I don’t understand The Angst about waiting

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like a certain time to you know drop the article I said I think the longer

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something is out there and the more information that you know town meeting members and boards and committees can

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gather it just makes it that much more easily successful um when it goes to P

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town meeting so I believe it should should be at least 6 months in advance from any

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deadline thank you I’m I’m a big proponent of deadline so I appreciate that thank

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you thank you any other questions from the

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board thank you thank you so are we ready to

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vote no we’re not thank you

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Mr Quint can I you want discuss an now from the board on what we’re doing yeah

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okay so just a couple of minutes here to explain my position on this issue

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so some of you know that I took a sabatical for two years I came back and

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what tradition is is once the new board is seed and I’m guessing Mr chairman

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this might happen in our next meeting the committee assign assignments are doled out for the select board and

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if uh somebody obviously leaves then there might be five to six uh committee assignments hanging out there with

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nobody assigned to them for the select board and you know there might be a little horse trading going on but then we we figure out that what’s happening

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there uh I served with Miss Bartlett before for almost a decade I believe from 2011 to 2020 on the CPC uh

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wonderful colleague uh it was certainly an enjoyment to uh sit beside her in those meetings as we went into the

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committee assignments last sum I didn’t um go out of my way to get the

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designation for the CPC but uh nobody stood up and asked for it so Kevin and I

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took it and um I went back to the committee meeting uh the CPC and we

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started attended meetings and you know something was different when I came back to the board after two

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years and you know Mr Quintel has also experienced this after a longer period of time than my and it takes a while to

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get um acclimated and get back in the saddle if you will and I came back to the CPC and I’m just going to expand on

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a term that Mr KY just used and he said bizar so the term I’m going to use is

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Bizarro so DC Comics Batman Superman in the 60s they had a Bizarro world and if

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you’re a Seinfield fan in the 90s it was uh one of your better Seinfield episodes was the Bizarro World episode okay so in

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today’s terminology what Bizarro means is something that is inverted or the opposite of what should be okay and the

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first time that I realized that something was significantly wrong with this committee was Thursday night

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November 17th where I sat in a committee meeting and I had to participate in a discussion and I was told that the town

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manager could not attend a CPC meeting unless giving express permission by the

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committee itself and that’s flat out wrong um Mr KY alluded to the fact that

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applicants are not not allowed to come in and present their case to the committee um we are suppressing the

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First Amendment it is not Democratic it is not open it is not transparent it is

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in complete violation of the Massachusetts public meeting

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law April 13th of this year we had a meeting at the Art Center there was six

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of us in attendance uh three absent and we were talking about the potential purchase of 50 acres of uh open space

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and I suggested that the department head of the division of marine and environmental Affairs come in and

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provide his technical expertise to the committee on the pros and cons of such a purchase and I was proceeded to be told

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by the chair that it was illegal I made a motion the motion was

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seconded by the planning board designate and we engaged in approximately 13 to 15

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minutes of discussion where I was continually told that it was illegal for a department head to come in in and

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provide his expertise to such an article so that was the height of hypocrisy uh

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the vote passed 4 to two I can’t explain I can’t validate and to me it’s

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disqualifying of those two individuals including Miss Bartlett that voted against it um it’s an insult to the

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community and it’s an insult to Mr Gould who is the preeminent expert in the

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community a $300 million business on such issues so

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I’ll be voting for Miss Kam kavako uh there needs to be change and before you

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get into a philosophical dis discussion on open space historical or affordable

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housing you have got to have democracy and the First Amendment you’ve got to

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have openness and transparency and this committee right now is lacking that in

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Spades so that’s where I stand thank you

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Mr KY thank you um so first of all I’d like to thank uh Miss Bartlett for 18 years

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of service that’s significantly um notable I I just completed nine years on the advisory and

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finance committee and you’ve done twice that on the CPC so that is an impressive

36:17

tenure I while I was on the advisory in finance committee and now that I sit here I have to look back to the my time

36:25

there and um I I found that the CPC would routinely

36:31

be up against deadlines having to have certain accommodations made it difficult

36:36

to hear the Articles from time to time but then when it got so bad that an art

36:42

that they all their articles were submitted past a deadline and nothing was put on the warrant for the first

36:48

time since the CPC existed I mean that’s exceptional and

36:54

extraordinary um and it’s not Miss Bartlett’s fault uh that that happened

37:00

it’s not unilaterally her responsibility she’s one member of a nine member body

37:06

the problem that we have here is and the CPC chair was just quoted in an article

37:13

about the independence of the CPC and this shair is right the CPC does have a measure of Independence we have a

37:19

liaison that votes we have the ability to appoint three positions uh to the

37:24

committee but other than that our powers of oversight are extremely limited but I

37:29

feel that we need to use the powers of oversight that we do have to effectuate

37:35

change about missing deadlines about not providing enough affordable housing in

37:40

this community I am in my day job a public defender I work representing

37:47

folks in court that cannot afford their own lawyer that are facing a loss of

37:52

their Liberty and they don’t get a choice who they pick to represent them these are people that are have

37:58

transportation issues substance use issues uh affordability issues they

38:04

often would qualify for affordable housing there are many people in this

38:09

community that I don’t interact with in my day job that also would would qualify for affordable housing it’s a vital

38:16

service that is leaving a lot of people behind people complain about the riseing costs of Plymouth how expensive it is to

38:23

live here the tax bill and uh the cost of living affordable housing is a great

38:29

way to get a handle on some of that it’s also as I alluded to in my questions a good way to get a handle on avoiding 40b

38:37

projects which can ignore local zoning and a developer can just build whatever

38:43

that type of project wherever they want regardless of how that loan that land is zoned like most recently The Oasis uh on

38:51

what was formerly commercial land uh by Home Depot which is really getting it on

38:57

both ends because we’re losing commercial land and we’re gaining high density zoning that puts a significant

39:02

strain on our resources and I would also point out that 40 BS can also negatively

39:09

impact the mission of the CPC in regards to preserving open space and Recreation

39:16

because we’re we’re we’re leaving choices to other people when we open ourselves up to that 49 units in 8 years

39:24

only 16 units in last three years is not even close to keeping Pace the CPC is

39:31

one of the best ways for this town to increase its affordable housing stock

39:37

and it’s not pulling its weight and I think that is a significant problem and

39:42

a significant oversight and it’s unfortunate that we have to try and fix

39:49

it by removing somebody voting to REM to put on somebody in place of somebody that’s been on there for 18 years um

39:57

because that’s as I said a long time it’s not personal I got a lot of emails over the last couple of days in support

40:02

of Miss Bartlett so that’s why I I really think that it’s we should first and foremost congratulate her on her

40:09

years of service but this is a community resource we are all custodians of the

40:14

offices that we hold all of us uh are

40:19

just temporary occupants of these positions and at certain points changes need to be made in order to accomplish

40:27

the goals of this community and meet the needs of the public and unfortunately I think this is a situation where A change

40:33

is necessary so for that reason I will be voting for miss

40:40

kavako any other comments um John do we have who’s the

40:47

representative for affordable housing is there a design on the CPC yes it’s Mr

40:53

Russell Shirley Mr Shirley yeah he came after my time on the CPC I

41:00

sat there for a number of years we had it was uh Joan pental at the time and um

41:06

she was a a crackerjack to say the least of how to mingle Town funds with federal

41:14

funds she was very very good at that and I I feel she helped us you know she

41:20

helped that committee quite a bit and um I haven’t really seen any of anything of

41:26

that magnitude since she’s been gone and so I have to agree you know it is a

41:34

concern um so anyway that’s another subject but

41:41

did you want to say one more thing sure Joan come

41:55

on

42:04

I only want to say that I’m not on this for a personality who’s the favorite

42:10

person it makes me so embarrassed I just don’t like it I only said the number of

42:16

years i’ I’ve been on the committee is because I’ve gotten to know a lot of stuff about the committee and I care a

42:23

lot and have worked with wonderful people on the

42:29

committee I have to say John that your rudeness on almost every time you came

42:36

in was very hard for most of us to take you were very very rude and someone

42:43

pointed out that one of the times you were there so but I this isn’t a

42:49

personality contest choose the person best person for the job

42:54

please thank you thank you thank you we

43:05

set so we have one full seat it’s a three-year

43:11

term Joan botet one

43:18

vote Mrs kavako four

43:24

votes four and one who’s the

43:33

one Mr chairman for the record can you state that I I didn’t get that from the the for the minutes four in

43:40

favor of Mrs kavako and the one sole vote for Joan was

43:49

myself Conservation Commission two full seats

43:54

and then there’s uh are up and one vacancy for a one-year term correct

44:00

that’s that expires in 2024 and that was in Burnham’s

44:06

seat okay I just want to make sure I got it right so when I announce these if I say one wrong because there been a few

44:13

changes just pipe in

44:19

okay James coer here would you like to say anything

44:25

Jimmy

44:35

hi my name is Jamie Carpenter I’ve uh born and raised in Plymouth I’ve been a member of the harbor committee for

44:41

roughly 21 years I own two businesses in town a construction company and an

44:47

oyster growing company uh been on the commission now for a year I think we’ve done a very good job of kind of

44:54

streamlining the process by still use um enforcing the

44:59

regulations Our Town regulations and our state regulations um and from what I understand everybody seems to be pretty

45:05

happy with the way the board is uh the commission is um moving at this

45:11

point any questions any questions Mr Ka Jamie what

45:17

do you take away from your first year on the committee the commission um I I think we’ve done a

45:24

great job of um moving some things you know for instance uh if someone’s has a

45:31

uh septic system it falls 5et within the 100 feet instead of making a full um

45:38

filing we’ve we’ve kind of instituted a new um determination non-significance so

45:44

it allows a person to save quite a bit of money it’s you know if if it’s not really impacting the environment and uh

45:52

I think that’s a great tool that we’ve been using to help people save money money so they’re not spending you know5

45:57

$6,000 in engineering for something that’s basically is going to get approved and you’re suggesting we we’re

46:04

able to do that and help home homeowners out but not compromise uh our

46:09

responsibility under the wetlands exactly reg corre correct yep okay thank

46:15

you any other questions for Jimmy thank you thank

46:21

you Mr Nichols would you like to say anything

46:35

uh how’s it going uh my name is Lucas Nichols um I’ve been on the commission for two years I think uh I’m like Jamie

46:45

also excuse me in the contracting business so I’m familiar with a lot of the building and the zoning codes um in

46:53

addition uh I did I grew up on a pond I grew up on Long Pond so and throughout

46:58

my life I spent a lot of time in the wetlands area so I’m familiar with the town familiar with a lot of the the uh

47:04

the areas affected so that’s it any questions Mr Mom yeah

47:10

Mr Nicholls how do you find what are you taking away from your first two years on this

47:17

commission uh well you were you when you were first appointed was there anything

47:23

to surprise you in your first few months I think for the first year things did

47:28

kind of drag out there was a lot of administrative stuff that you know the meetings were quite long and kind of

47:33

burned some I think on everybody involved um nonetheless it was good to

47:40

learn since then it’s been a little bit more expedited much more efficient

47:46

so I’d say that I’ve learned one way and then I’ve learned another way and not saying one’s

47:53

right but can you please speak into the microphone thank

47:59

you okay okay thank you any other questions

48:07

comments thank you is Mr Howard here yes I

48:21

am good evening Bruce Howard balance I realize we must strive for

48:28

balance between protecting our natural resources and enabling growth and

48:34

development in this process we must ensure that the survival of our natural

48:40

resources while we ensure the legal rights of those who work near our

48:46

Wetlands over the past couple of years I’ve learned a lot about balance my

48:51

previous four years on the Conservation Commission was a powerful lesson

48:56

I continued to learn and grow while on advisory and finance and so I’ve come to

49:02

realize that there’s much more I have to learn I’m a quiet person by Nature I

49:08

tend to be reserved and thoughtful in meetings I have a keen mind and pride myself in my ability to ask the probing

49:17

questions and in the end make sensible balanced decisions I appreciate your

49:24

consideration tonight for my appointment to conservation thank you any questions for Mr Holt Mr Howard

49:33

Mr Howard excuse me thank you thank

49:39

you is Mr Holt in

49:46

here he’s not waiting online right okay Mr

49:54

Brown

50:05

uh good evening uh thank you for having me here tonight uh my name is Jesse Brown I’m a life uh resident of Plymouth

50:12

for over 25 years I was Marine Corps veteran business owner and co-founder of

50:17

a nonprofit organization all in Plymouth I just got off the Plymouth chamber uh

50:23

board I was on that for about eight years uh the funny thing is is I was on approximately five boards that my last

50:29

meeting actually was just last month so I I got off all those with the state I on the Workforce Development uh the

50:36

chamber and I came to the point to where it’s very important to still volunteer

50:41

and be part of your community and with this actual committee right here where I

50:47

find it important is that you have to have the experience but I also have the firsthand knowledge of this area I’m a

50:52

resident also have a house down a Long Beach so so I see this stuff firsthand of the impacts of what every how

50:58

everything happens I also own another property on the beach so I see this but

51:04

more importantly you know when you go into that construction aspect my business that I have is a wireless

51:09

construction business so I deal a lot with conservation on a I’m actually just texting right now with people up in

51:15

menden because we’re dealing with that right now so the experience with it but to have that cohesion of still moving

51:22

forward but protecting our environment is extremely important but you need that experience that people that have

51:27

actually been in that Arena so any questions I appreciate

51:35

it Mr bler then Mr Mone hi Jesse how you doing how you

51:40

doing sir uh I don’t know you so let’s get that straight right never met okay

51:46

but you have a house on the beach uh I don’t want anybody to think that that’s

51:52

going to be a conflict will you think that would be a conflict with uh being on the conservation having a a property

51:57

like that I think that’s a benefit okay as I said firsthand knowledge being down there and if it’s impacting you directly

52:04

right away you’re going to bring that to the to the board and and and I agree with you on that I agree with you uh

52:12

that’s why I want to make it clear I’ve never met you before so uh I think I think it’s an asset you have an house on

52:18

the beach because you see this thing firsthand but uh so anyway that’s all I wanted to get that clear thank you

52:30

uh Mr Brown yes sir so last year when we did these appointments we had an

52:36

individual who we knew had a house on the beach and at the same time he was

52:41

applying to the board for a uh some sort of a license agreement for a a driveway

52:47

transfer alteration and that individual didn’t get appointed so I was just

52:53

curious um you’re in now you know you’ve told us that you do also own a house on Long

53:01

Beach did that prompt you getting interested was there some negative

53:07

experience that you had that you decided that you had to run for this or were you think no there’s no negative experience at all uh the funny thing is so I’ll

53:15

tell you the the property that I own is The Beach Plum and and I bought it from a tremendous couple called the the Barns

53:21

and the number one thing with that that I told them is that that house will not be changed at all and keeping it as it

53:28

is so like I said you have to work you have to work in cohesion with the environment but still being able to move forward if you want to do something you

53:35

can’t hinder somebody to do it at all costs at all but for me as a personal

53:40

thing it it does nothing personal for me okay and do you have do you have any

53:45

experience with respect to the you know the Wetland regulations to the state we so my business that I do that we’re

53:51

involved in we build cell towers so we’re constantly we work all over I’m a

53:57

uh general contractor in Massachusetts Rhode Island Connecticut and it’s reciprocal in the other states so all

54:02

the New England states I’m a major contractor in that so we deal with that we’re a prime vendor contractor for

54:08

major Wireless carriers where we work in these areas on a constant basis building new towers and have to deal with this

54:16

okay thank you Mr bleta then Mr Jesse one more one more thing uh question if

54:23

you were personally involved in any issue that involved the Conservation Commission you would recuse

54:31

yourself oh AB absolutely yeah that’s a no-brainer right okay thank

54:37

you would you also recuse yourself if the um your determination on any rules

54:45

and regulation changes would impact a property such as yours maybe not in name maybe not

54:53

something on Long Beach but something that would have to do with a coastal um a change in coastal regulations and

55:01

would impact your property would you recuse yourself on that I don’t think so just because I

55:07

have I have multiple properties in Plymouth on the beach not just Long Beach but I have other multiple

55:12

properties along the beach so it’s kind of unfair to not be on the board because

55:18

well there will be probably a lot of rules and regulations that we’ll be voting on and having a do where it would

55:24

impact it on a constant basis so I I I don’t say I would recuse myself on that but if it’s a personal personal issue

55:30

where it’s my property or something right surrounded where I know I I would have to

55:36

yes one more let me make it a little clearer if it was an issue that it

55:43

wasn’t your property but something that would you would profit from would you recuse yourself yes okay thank

55:51

you any other questions thank you thank

55:57

you Mr chairman David Holton um stated in an email that he’s not able to attend

56:03

the meeting tonight um however he would like to be considered um because he believes he’s the has the best interest

56:11

um for the town I just wanted to pass that along thank you very much

56:16

Anthony is Mr Morrison

56:23

here I’m Walder Morrison a business own

56:29

former business owner in this town uh the reason why I’ve have not applied for

56:34

any positions in the past is I viewed it as a conflict of interest I had

56:40

previously sold in my business career many different uh departments

56:47

environmental um Tre and park too many

56:53

schools now now that I’m retired have no interest at all um in Morrison’s huming

56:59

Garden I felt as though I could finally step forward past experience that may be relevant to this is that

57:07

um one I’ve been selling to the industry that would help um Rel relieve

57:15

conditions where the Conservation Commission would be involved being plant

57:20

material means of uh helping uh erosion control control things of that nature

57:27

also more importantly I’ve been involved with the cranberry industry for a number of

57:32

years 12 years ago I represented Federal furnace cranberry um with a situation of

57:39

uh we’ll call it green water at White Island Pond if any of you people remember that

57:44

situation uh there were two cranberry owners ad make piece in federal furnace cranbery that had bogs in the northern

57:52

end of that pond um um it was a bad situation um it was a

58:00

almost three-year process of uh working with um the white

58:06

Island Pond homeowners association the state and actually

58:12

various departments within the state both de and

58:17

um s Mass down at um UMass University down in

58:23

Dartmouth uh lot of studies were done um very important at least in my mind is a

58:30

lot of science was done in the situation was corrected I think I’ve uh demonstrated

58:36

over the years uh the ability to cooperate and get agreement through

58:42

various with various groups um I’ve been involved in the

58:48

outside forever basically um I think I can add something

58:54

to the the knowledge level two years ago um I was certified

59:00

for invasive plant management by the state I think this is uh I can bring

59:06

some technical expertise to this board and that would be it if there’s any

59:11

questions happy to answer but the main oh one other aspect in terms of federal furnace is we have recently sold that

59:19

farm because there is some land in the town of Plymouth even though it’s a carver based um cranbery operation there

59:29

was some acreage that resided in the town of Plymouth next to Federal Pond

59:34

that the town of Plymouth owns that um Farm has recently been sold to a ducksbury grower so I would have no

59:42

conflict of interest at all any questions from Mr

59:50

Morrison thank you thank you very much is Mr Wright

1:00:01

here okay bring it back to the

1:00:06

board just making a

1:00:19

little okay we’ll do one of the three-year terms there’s two of them actually so

1:00:26

we’ll do those two first so M I’m sorry Mr chairman just for clarity we have two

1:00:31

three-year terms right and one oneyear term just feeling the last year on a

1:00:37

three-year term okay yes we’re just going to do one at a time yeah I I actually got that right John okay thank

1:00:46

you okay starting from the top for one of the three-year terms James Carpenter

1:00:53

incumbent I’m just going to do a roll call Mr bletzer yes Mr Helm yes Mr KY yes Mr

1:01:02

Mahoney yes and myself yes

1:01:08

congratulations uh Lucas Nichols this would be the the second

1:01:14

second three yeah three term SE Mr bletzer

1:01:19

yes Mr Helm no m Mr KY yes and Mr Mahoney yes and

1:01:29

myself yes congratulations Mr Nicholas Nichols I’m sorry four in favor Mr alms

1:01:37

in opposition so we have the one-year term

1:01:43

which expires in 2024 and I believe it was an berham seat

1:01:49

correct okay Mr

1:01:57

Howard uh yes one vote Mr

1:02:04

KY I’m assuming there four NOS correct correct okay well just for the

1:02:12

record yes all right Mr bletzer no Mr Helm no Mr KY was a yes Mr Mone no and

1:02:21

myself no Mr

1:02:26

Brown Mr bletzer yes Mr Helm no Mr

1:02:32

KY I already voted so no for now for the one year ter yeah

1:02:40

that’s right this is I casted my vote for Mr Howard can’t keep oh you did it yeah and I’m gonna I’m GNA cast my vote

1:02:47

for Walter marison the third so I’m a no on Brown I’m going to go for one so we

1:02:53

have Mr blz for brown I’m voting for brown one for

1:02:59

brown okay so we have one for Mr Howard

1:03:04

one for Mr Brown and one for Mr Morrison make that two for Mr Morrison please two for Mr

1:03:12

Morrison and make that two for Mr Brown

1:03:19

myself okay so we have to do it again

1:03:25

correct okay say it again dick you have one for Morrison no two for Morrison

1:03:31

yeah two for brown and one for Mr Howard okay I’m sorry that’s all right don’t be

1:03:40

sorry so Mr Howard Mr bletzer no Mr Helm uh

1:03:49

no Mr KY yes yes

1:03:56

Mr Mahoney I’m sticking with Walter Morrison again in this round so I’ll go

1:04:03

no here from Mr okay no and myself I’m going to go with Mr

1:04:10

Brown and like the last time I’m my vote is for Mr Morrison okay so now we have

1:04:17

we’re exactly votes now we got a vote again all right uh so I i’ make a motion

1:04:23

that have a runoff between uh Mr Brown and Mr Morrison for the oneyear seat

1:04:29

second that okay we need to vote on the motion yep

1:04:35

Mr bletzer yes Mr yes Mr KY yes Mr

1:04:41

Mahoney and myself yes so we’re going to so all those in

1:04:48

favor of Mr Brown Mr beder yes and Mr helm

1:04:54

no and Mr KY no and Mr Mahoney no and myself

1:05:06

yes and Mr Morrison Mr Blitzer is a no he voted for right

1:05:15

so it’s going to leave Mr Helm yes and it’s going to

1:05:22

leave Mr KY yes yes and myself yes and yourself yes so Mr yes okay so we have

1:05:31

Mr Helm Mr KY and Mr Mahoney in favor of Mr Morrison okay

1:05:40

congratulations all righty harber committee Mr chairman just for a recap

1:05:47

um so for the minutes we have uh James Carpenter for the full vote voting seat

1:05:55

for threeyear term yes Lucas Nichols full voting seat yes threeyear term and

1:06:02

then we have Walter Morrison one-year term full voting seat yes thank you

1:06:08

you’re welcome har committee two threeyear

1:06:15

terms Paul Quintel here yeah no uncontested

1:06:24

Mr Shaman I I see that they’re uncontested I’ll make a motion we approve the two uh nominees I’ll

1:06:32

second well sometimes it might be some questions even though that you know what I mean so I always like that your

1:06:38

discretion no no no I motion made by Mr Mahoney second by

1:06:49

uh second B was it Mr bletzer Mr bletzer

1:06:55

Mr bler yes Mr Helm yes Mr KY yes Mr Mahoney yes and

1:07:05

myself yes five unanimous for the two appointments for the purposes of the minutes the harbor

1:07:11

committee one full seat for party boat representative Paul quinal three-year

1:07:20

term one full voting seat chamber of Commerce representative James Carpenter

1:07:27

yes thank you you’re welcome historic dis District commission

1:07:33

one full seat vacant one alternate seat vacant and one alternate seat up for

1:07:43

reappointment so we take the full seat let me see aren there four here two

1:07:51

one two three yeah one alterate seat up for reappointment so Mr chairman we have

1:07:59

one full seat that is vacant one alternate seat that is

1:08:05

vacant one full seat and one alternate seat that are up for

1:08:12

reappointment so in total we have two vote full voting seats for three years

1:08:17

term threeyear terms and two alternate seats for three-year terms and we have

1:08:23

two incumbents we have an incumbent that is

1:08:29

a full voting seat Mike tubin Mr tubin Miss kanduchi who is currently an

1:08:36

alternate but requests a full voting seat and then we have three others that

1:08:42

are interested in

1:08:47

appointment any questions from any of the board or do you want to move them or

1:08:52

well it’s look there’s five candidates I’d like to hear from the candidates okay just

1:09:01

checking we Mr tubin five

1:09:09

candidates hey M Mr chair select board Town manager and staff uh thank you for

1:09:16

your consideration I’m currently the uh sitting chair on the historic commission been on there for 18 years although I

1:09:23

don’t know that’s something good to mention and um since I’ve been on it we’ve developed the historic district

1:09:31

guidelines in 2007 we’ve passed a demolition delay bylaw 7 years

1:09:37

ago um we’re in the process of updating the historic district guidelines because they are um over a decade decade old um

1:09:46

we’re actually in the process as well of expanding the historic district um we’ve heard um obviously dealing with with um

1:09:54

the marina project and we’ve heard the select board um show an interest in

1:10:00

expanding the historic district so actually two weeks from now two and a half weeks we have a meeting in this room a public hearing to introduce the

1:10:08

um historic district expansion so looking forward to that um and I the 18

1:10:13

years I’ve been on it I think I miss my birthday every year if it falls on my birthday I really enjoy um it’s exciting

1:10:20

I love hearing the cases being a part of the historic preservation in Plymouth and uh

1:10:26

hope to continue Mr Mahoney so Mr tubin

1:10:34

you have touched on the question I’m going to ask of all five candidates if

1:10:39

they’re here tonight so obviously you’re in a position where you’ve been on the commission you know so the question would have been what have you done as a

1:10:47

current member to you know investigate and bring forth the potential expansion of the downtown you know historic

1:10:53

Waterfront District and then obviously for people who aren’t there I’ll ask them what would they do so that they’re

1:10:59

not caught off guard when they get up there so uh that’s the only question I’m going to have for all five I don’t know if you want another bite at the Apple to

1:11:06

expand on you know what you just said yeah we brought on a um a historic consultant Christopher Skelly who spent

1:11:13

over 20 years with mass historic um he put together the first part of the expansion process which is a um a

1:11:21

historic study of the area so we have the draft result of that which we’re going to present as I mentioned in in

1:11:28

two and a half weeks to the public and um once we have that public hearing

1:11:34

we’ll we’ll see what the response is from the town he’s going to be there the histor uh the historic consultant uh we

1:11:41

have a PowerPoint presentation put together talking about the benefits of being in historic district so as long as

1:11:47

we have public buy into it which I hope we do um then we’ll proceed um with some

1:11:53

future public hearings and um hopefully bring it to town meeting it probably wouldn’t make it for the fall so

1:11:59

probably for the spring okay and now are you in touch are you in contact with Mr

1:12:05

sessi with respect to Social Media communication to promote the meeting

1:12:10

that you’re talking about in this room I have we haven’t yet we just sent out a um a mailing to the abutters to the

1:12:17

affected houses in The District in the abutters that’s probably our next um I’m working with Lee Harman in the planning

1:12:23

and development and we’ve had discussions about that so there probably will be discussions about social media

1:12:29

and now is that that meeting going to occur in the evening or during the day 6:30 6:30 okay on a Thursday and uh

1:12:36

it’ll be in this room okay and all right Mr tubin thank you yeah thank

1:12:42

you any other questions for Mr tubin Mr

1:12:49

Helm um Mr tubin can you uh um speak to the residents about

1:12:58

um how the five Water Street project turned out the way that it

1:13:05

did um I voted and also were you happy with it I voted against it it was a um I

1:13:12

think a three to2 vote so I was one of the descending votes on that I I spoke

1:13:18

at length against it tried to consider tried to get the board to consider

1:13:24

waiting I wasn’t happy with what was being presented and I and um Julie Barry

1:13:31

who has since left the commission spoke for about a half hour on why we shouldn’t allow that massing and um

1:13:38

didn’t approve of the project but it it’s it still passed why do you think it

1:13:45

passed I can’t speak to how other people voted but I I think people I I understand that but you could have you

1:13:51

could I’m asking for your perception on why three people voted for that

1:13:59

I I think the proposal that was put before us the the specs of The Proposal

1:14:04

how it was proposed to us wasn’t accurate the the um the actual Dimension so what we were

1:14:12

seeing there was a there’s a telephone poll right where the building was and his drawings had the building coming

1:14:19

about 3/4 of the way up the telephone pole and I said this can’t be accurate a telephone pulls 35 ft so I said let’s

1:14:26

wait until we get accurate drawings and and I I think everybody was happy with what they saw that was presented and

1:14:33

voted based on that I I I don’t think there’s ever in

1:14:40

the 18 years I’ve been on the commission that’s like the first project that I’ve received calls in calls on calls from

1:14:46

the press it I definitely don’t regard it as one of our brightest

1:14:52

moments that’s good to hear because I think most

1:14:57

residents of Plymouth would agree with

1:15:03

you any other questions or comments from the

1:15:09

board um Mike we’ll know when that uh meeting is going to take place here because I’m very interested myself yeah

1:15:15

definitely like to be a part of okay and Derek and we’ll see how we can promote it and I definitely want to get as much

1:15:23

representations we can because that’s where we’re going to decide whether we go forward with this or not so I think

1:15:28

the more people the better thank you thanks is Kimberly cani

1:15:41

here evening everybody select board Town manager thank you for having me so um I

1:15:46

am here to apply for a reappointment I have currently an alternate and I’d love to have a full term seat um um so I took

1:15:54

over somebody else’s uh midterms I’ve only been here six months um but I was born and raised in Plymouth and um my

1:16:01

family just got um approved of membership in the Mayflower society which my mother want her dying wish she’s still alive but she wanted to have

1:16:07

it done before she passed and um I love my hometown very much and care about it preserving his character as much as we

1:16:14

can I’ve seen all the changes a town of the size with the growth and change were inevitable um and a thoughtful review of

1:16:21

proposed changes against established guidelines is really really important um I think I mentioned the last time I was here that

1:16:27

I’m old enough to remember the Summer Street Redevelopment which uh to me was a terrible thing um so many historic

1:16:34

homes were completely raised and it no longer looks like anything that it did before and uh had we had a historic

1:16:41

commission before then I think that probably would have turned up much differently um so um you know I’ve done

1:16:47

I’ve been I’ve only been here six months so I haven’t have a long list of accomplishments um but I did do site visits so stepen field um and also on

1:16:54

Brewster Gardens and um and some of the things that come before us on a regular basis seem more mundane but they’re

1:17:00

actually very important to preserving the look of the Town downtown which is signage so as new businesses come in the businesses move and they change they

1:17:06

expand Cades on Route 44 on y pagos for one example um people’s uh signage has

1:17:12

to fit with uh with the character of the town and there’s so many of them that come before us and it’s it’s great to

1:17:18

have input one of them in particular came through with a sign um not C another business that had terrible

1:17:25

colors and just was not going to fit but so we went went back to him and he came back with new plans and now it’s

1:17:31

actually beautiful it’s completely just minor modifications but enough to make it really beautiful so these are types

1:17:37

of things that have been very interesting to be a part of and I would love to have a full appointment for a

1:17:42

full term thank you thank you any questions

1:17:49

comments thank you okay Mr zeroi

1:18:01

good evening thank you Plymouth is a unique community and currently as in a commun as a community

1:18:08

there are several issues that are facing the town as we move forward the historic

1:18:13

district commission is a commission that would have a pivotal role in determining what our town will look like going

1:18:19

forward reviewing and looking at the current structures we have in town to determine historic relevance and

1:18:26

preservation while also determining their safety and efficacy as structures for use in the 21st century are

1:18:33

important issues to consider paying attention to the buildings that are in town that go

1:18:39

beyond the 17th and 18th century will need attention and preservation as well

1:18:45

many of the structures that were important parts of the town’s historic period are beginning to and have been

1:18:51

seen as buildings that can be used for multiple purposes these structures deserve

1:18:56

attention as well as those that are 300 plus years old let us not forget new construction I

1:19:04

believe it is important that our past inform our future while the contrast of

1:19:10

modern architecture just opposed to historical structures work in some

1:19:15

communities I do not believe that our town is such a community at least not in

1:19:20

the historic district which I believe should be expanded will work in this

1:19:27

town looking to our past acknowledging the need to expand and grow and

1:19:32

seamlessly moving into the future are some of the reasons I would like to serve on this committee I believe that my knowledge of

1:19:40

Aesthetics the ability to work with and compromise with others on the committee

1:19:45

the ability to ask the right questions at the right time would serve well on this committee finally as I seek to be

1:19:52

become more involved with the town I believe that serving on a committee that I have a passion for would benefit would

1:20:00

be a benefit to all other committee members that need to interact and other

1:20:05

committees that need to interact with the historic district committee I am an educator prying to be

1:20:12

prior to becoming a reading and language arts professional I was a fine arts teacher helping students bring out their

1:20:19

creativity and pushing them to grow was something I enjoy very much as a fine art student I was

1:20:26

especially interested in 18th and 19th century art and architecture the

1:20:31

attention to detail has served me well personally and professionally I have been Ed been an

1:20:37

educator for over 20 years and in that capacity I have enjoyed sharing

1:20:42

knowledge helping students find their passion instilling in m a passion for learning all while being a lifelong

1:20:50

learner myself personal Al I have also been a lifelong resident of Plymouth I have

1:20:56

seen the town grow and change over the last five decades I have seen the new

1:21:02

replace the historic with little attention pay to the beauty charm and dignity of what has gone

1:21:08

before I see the need to grow carefully and measuredly attending to the detail

1:21:14

of the past and seamlessly blending into the present and the future for me this

1:21:21

is personal my Ro as an educator is to teach and learn to question and

1:21:27

share these personal and professional experiences are the things that I would bring to this

1:21:33

committee educationally I hold a Bachelor of Fine Arts and education a

1:21:38

masters in elementary education literacy and literature and a certificate of advanced graduate study in developmental

1:21:45

reading spelling and writing this again believes I believe demonstrates a

1:21:51

passion for learning knowing what questions to ask when and knowing how to

1:21:56

share information another key component to being a good teacher is being a good listener hearing

1:22:04

and seeing what my students need and what and want are skills that enhance

1:22:09

the learning process being able to listen to others find common ground and

1:22:15

meaning are the same skills I would bring to this committee not as someone

1:22:21

seeking to develop and grow while these are important and necessary I believe

1:22:26

that having a person who can attend to detail listen to others and find consensus are necessary

1:22:34

skills my experience in serving the town are as follows I am a member of the advisory and finance committee I am a

1:22:41

member of the SIMS house task force I was a member of the working group that

1:22:47

redrew the precinct map for the town giving us 18 precincts and my very first experience

1:22:53

working with the town was sitting on the design selection committee when I was a student at Bridgewater State

1:23:00

University I am seeking reappointment to the advisory and finance committee and would ha be happy to accept whatever

1:23:07

appointment this board chooses to give me having said that I’d be happy to

1:23:12

answer any questions Mr Mahoney so Mr Zoli you know

1:23:18

you heard the earlier question of Mr tubin and U Miss kanduchi uh you haven’t been on the commission so what are your

1:23:26

thoughts on the expansion of the historical uh you know the area and what occurred down there at Union Street with

1:23:32

respect to the Mariner and how do we um how does the community position itself uh in a better place where that we can

1:23:37

avoid those in the future I think one of the things that needs to happen is clear and open communication with whatever

1:23:43

agency is seeking to build and develop that part of town which is which is in the historic district I think a clear

1:23:49

definition of what is an acceptable of what is is and is not acceptable design

1:23:55

needs to be put forward from the very beginning I think it’s very unfortunate what happened with Union Street um and

1:24:01

The Foundry I would have liked to have seen while I understand the need to grow

1:24:07

and while I understand safe harbors need to grow I think I would have liked to have seen different designs going

1:24:13

forward that would have kept intact um what is there now would have celebrated

1:24:19

what has been there before while seamlessly as I said before um adding to

1:24:25

the structure behind it I think there were a number of things design-wise that could have been considered and I don’t

1:24:32

think they were in terms of expanding the historic district I think it’s important that we go up to Lincoln

1:24:37

Street I also think it’s important that we look at North Plymouth there are a number of buildings in North Plymouth

1:24:44

that speak to our Town’s history as an industrial center specifically the

1:24:50

cordage um some of the homes that currently exist in and around North

1:24:55

Plymouth I think well Define what it means to be a historical town I think

1:25:01

those designs cannot be thrown away in terms of or just for the sake of looking

1:25:06

at what’s in the downtown area I would be in favor of expanding the historic

1:25:12

district much more than I think what some some of my colleagues and some of my fellow residents would like to see

1:25:19

again specifically looking at North Plymouth thank you

1:25:24

any other questions from the board thank you thank you Mr

1:25:35

funari good evening gentlemen thank you for having me here this evening my name is Bill forar I’m a resident of Plymouth

1:25:42

I’m also the owner of BF Architects which is located in the historic district although we do a wide variety

1:25:48

of works one of our Specialties is restoration and preservation work I feel my background in education in the

1:25:54

preservation and restoration work would be a great asset to the board thank you thank you any questions

1:26:01

just Mr fonari that you know that question with respect to expansion and

1:26:06

uh you know working with the commission to potentially bring an article forward to town meeting I’m hugely in favor of

1:26:12

the district one of the one of the districts that I do a lot of work in is provin toown the entire town of

1:26:18

Provincetown is a historic district and it’s been a windfall for them so I’d

1:26:24

love to see more of the district expanded here in town thank you Mr

1:26:29

H um quickly um are you available for a full seat or

1:26:37

are you seeking just an alternative seat I am seeking the alternative seat just

1:26:45

alternate that’s it okay thank you Mr McKenna

1:27:13

good evening gentlemen my name is Charlie McKenna now unlike the gentleman that has spoken before me I’m not a

1:27:19

lifelong resident of Plymouth in fact I am a transplant here my wife is a

1:27:25

lifelong resident and she dragged me down here I’m a Northshore guy some six years ago now and in that time I’ve been

1:27:31

a downtown Plymouth resident and I’ve seen all of the great changes that have occurred downtown maybe some not so

1:27:39

great and some that were questionable not as well received but as a resident of this community and a person who’s

1:27:46

started a family here I believe that having the experience of being a resident living and breathing around the

1:27:51

changes that are occurring lends interesting perspective that this committee could take use of I am a

1:27:57

federal program manager professionally and that has over the years allowed me to develop a keen sense of coordinating

1:28:04

across multiple teams tackling very challenging issues overcoming red tape

1:28:09

and other obstacles so I know that working in cyber security doesn’t necessarily lend itself to Historic

1:28:16

District matters however the mindset of being able to work with different personalities be patient be engaged

1:28:22

enging and also ask the right questions that are both inquisitive but you know

1:28:27

tactful is important so I would appreciate your consideration for any appointment to this commission thank you

1:28:34

any questions from the board Charlie just with respect to

1:28:41

working with the commission to potentially expand the um you know the footprint and you know supporting their

1:28:47

efforts to get an article to Tom meating on you know that initiative

1:28:53

sure I mean I think as an outsider coming in and not to say can’t learning

1:28:58

the ropes I don’t want to say that majoritively but understanding what limitations are and how we take what’s

1:29:04

proposed and measure that against what’s acceptable to preserving the the

1:29:09

Integrity of the historic district I think is where I would start obviously the gentlemen who spoken before me are

1:29:15

very experienced and have done a lot of work around this town and this community so I feel like I would have to lean on

1:29:22

expertise but with that I’d be more than open to what they

1:29:29

suggest thank you any other questions Mr McKenna thank you very

1:29:38

much okay so for the historic district commission we have two full voting seats

1:29:45

threee terms and two alternate seats threeyear terms so we’ll take the full

1:29:54

the full voting seats first going one going one at a time

1:30:02

yes unless somebody wants to make a motion you know

1:30:09

okay Mr tubin Mr bletzer

1:30:14

no Mr Helm no Mr KY

1:30:20

yes and Mr Mahoney yes and myself yes

1:30:26

that’s three yeses two NOS the NOS of Mr bletzer and Mr Helm so that’s one

1:30:34

fullterm seat kimbery kanduchi Mr bletzer no Mr

1:30:43

Helm yes Mr KY yes Mr Mahoney yes myself yes

1:30:53

that’s Mr bletzer in opposition and the other four in favor

1:31:01

so that’s the two fullterm positions

1:31:06

congratulations now we have two alternate seats both threeyear

1:31:12

terms if you just give me a moment here a little

1:31:18

graph Mr zeri Mr bletzer yes Mr Helm yes

1:31:24

Mr KY yes Mr Mahoney yes and myself yes

1:31:31

unanimous five that’s one seat going now we’ll stop the second seat Mr

1:31:38

fenari Mr bletzer yes Mr Helm yes Mr

1:31:44

Mahoney yes I’m sorry Mr KY that’s okay yes and myself yes it’s unanimous

1:31:54

so we have two full-time seats two alternate seats and Mr McKenna please

1:32:00

reapply maybe for another committee because um I like a lot of

1:32:05

what you said and it’s nice to see people getting involved and that we have

1:32:10

a ton of things that are open and I mean that

1:32:17

sincerely natural resources in coastal beaches Comm

1:32:23

one full seat for neighbor of Morton Park and one full seat for a neighbor of

1:32:30

Long Beach two three-year terms am I doing better

1:32:37

now all righty Mrs fugazi

1:32:48

Stephanie there’s only two yeah I understand but in case anybody else you

1:32:53

know wants to ask questions or say a little something good evening Stephanie

1:32:59

fugazi um I’m here tonight uh seeking a reappointment to the Long Beach neighbor

1:33:06

uh position I’ve served on the committee for many many years um and very familiar

1:33:11

with the management plan of Long Beach and the management of the beach and how

1:33:17

it works and um excuse me um yeah so um let’s see what else can I

1:33:25

tell you um I attend all of the NRC in our CBC meetings I assist the chair with

1:33:32

anything he needs I am very supportive of the uh dmea uh department on the

1:33:39

management um I am the committee leaon to the Stevens Field committee I

1:33:46

attended them meetings when there were some um very a big disappointment though not to see that finished as yet but

1:33:53

hopefully you know still holding out hope um I attend all of the White Horse

1:33:58

Beach parking committee meetings that I can um and um stay in tune with their

1:34:04

issues as the former chair of the committee I worked very hard to um have

1:34:10

a establish a line item in the budget for White House speech because I was something that was lacking every time we

1:34:16

needed something we had to seek uh finances um and currently working on

1:34:22

solutions for Morton Park uh through the through the years I’ve served on the various Beach committee uh various

1:34:28

committees and working to find a balance for people to be able to use Long Beach

1:34:34

uh and the you know and with the conservation restrictions and the

1:34:39

limitations that the management plan placed on usage um and I just look

1:34:45

forward to uh continuing to serve the committee if you will support me thank you thank you very much much any

1:34:52

questions from bull seeing none thank you thank

1:34:58

you I’ll move Mr nomin to the neighbor long I’ll second it

1:35:06

first motion made by Mr Mahoney second by Mr bletzer Mr bletzer yes Mr

1:35:13

Helm yes Mr KY yes and Mr Mahoney yes

1:35:19

and myself yes unanimous thank thank you very much for your

1:35:24

service now the next one is a seat of Morton Park a neighbor uh are you a

1:35:32

neighbor

1:35:50

of

1:35:58

hello my name is Irene Caldwell and I’m applying to be on the committee as a

1:36:05

representative of the public on many of our communties with all due respect

1:36:11

that’s not what this is it you have to live be a neighbor in Morton Park is not

1:36:18

Precinct one in the area of Morton Park what your would your address

1:36:24

now that means that there’s no representative for the public on any of

1:36:29

the Committees that has anything to do what we’ll do is we’ll re advertise

1:36:35

it well I’m very disappointed that the public doesn’t have a seat at any of the

1:36:41

tables regarding any of the recreational facilities that are of use to the public

1:36:47

and it means that nobody speaks for us not in the open space Comm committee not in okay we’re going to you the applicant

1:36:56

was for a neighbor of Morton Park you have to live in Morton park or be a

1:37:02

neighbor so I don’t want to get in and you know Point order it didn’t say that

1:37:07

on the application you’re all set thank

1:37:16

you so can you please read advertise that Anthony thank you

1:37:22

yeah you have to be a a member of you know a neighbor of Morton Park I don’t make the rules I just run the

1:37:31

meeting open space we have one full seat for a three-year

1:37:36

term we have an incumbent Nathan Michael and this oh I believe Mr zakman

1:37:44

uh withdrew left

1:37:50

okay is Mr Michael

1:37:56

here do I have a motion from the board he is he’s umor via Zoom okay one

1:38:12

moment Mr Michael you’re able to unmute yourself hi can you hear me yes

1:38:22

hi um yeah my name is Nathan Michael I’ve served on the open space committee for two years now um I’ve enjoyed my

1:38:30

time on it um I initially joined because I have two young children and we hike

1:38:35

multiple trails in Plymouth regularly and I just want to be a part of it and um you know help preserve the land um

1:38:43

that we use so often um so I appreciate the consideration thank you any questions

1:38:51

from the board board members seeing

1:38:56

none Mr bletzer yes Mr Helm yes Mr KY yes and Mr

1:39:05

Mahoney yes and myself yes unanimous thank

1:39:13

you the last one we have is a zon board of appeals two full voting seats and

1:39:21

includes one vacancy two three-year T terms excuse

1:39:26

me and the incumbent is Mr main is he here would you like to say anything

1:39:44

Buster good evening good even Mr chairman board members how are you good

1:39:50

um what do I want to say about the zoning board a lot of people don’t understand

1:39:58

what the zoning board is and what we do it’s uh much like yourself an

1:40:05

adjudicated board that has caught Authority or not Authority but

1:40:11

the only ones like yourselves that can be overturned is is a

1:40:17

court every I’ve been here 18 years every single person on this board has

1:40:25

pretty much the same philosophy a person buys a piece of

1:40:30

property in this town puts their hard-earned money down they become the

1:40:35

king of that castle their domain their

1:40:41

ownership and they should have every right within reason to use that property

1:40:47

to the best of their advantage to the fullest of its Advantage so back in

1:40:55

1923 how the zoning board was started um a town called

1:41:04

uid wanted to uh bar a person that owned 60 or so acres of land from doing a

1:41:13

industrial park right in the center of town and they adopted some new rules

1:41:19

Richard kind of turned me on to the history of this 18 years ago um and the

1:41:27

upshot of it was that everybody should have a right if there is going to be

1:41:33

zoned properties to go somewhere where there is an impartial

1:41:41

board to to arbitrarily think look at every aspect

1:41:48

of what the zoning bylaw is and they have the authority limited but we have

1:41:54

the authority to adjust not to set aside not to change

1:42:01

not to do anything but adjust some of those bylaws for instance you want to build a

1:42:09

a garage and you’re supposed to be 15 ft away from the lot line in your 13

1:42:17

ft that’s pretty reasonable and as long as it’s not so egregious that it it

1:42:25

affects anybody else’s property then you should have the right to do that and

1:42:30

that’s what we do and it goes anywhere from somebody’s deck or their garage or

1:42:36

their addition all the way to nuclear power plants we’ve looked at everything

1:42:42

tonight I heard and I and I’m Overjoyed that affordable housing is really a

1:42:49

Forefront because our board takes that very serious um I’m quite proud Peter is

1:42:58

here somewhere of uh what this board has accomplished when he was

1:43:05

chair um what he has done that you people are familiar with a

1:43:11

40b that’s been going on for years and years and years up off a Kathleen drive

1:43:17

we had uh originally ta about adding 10 affordable units to that

1:43:25

for access to Donna Drive well they never cut through but but it got put

1:43:31

into the decision so they were responsible for 10

1:43:38

extra affordable units and they don’t want to build them and the state sets

1:43:45

this town as in all towns in Massachusetts what Market rate and what

1:43:51

what affordable rate should be well for those properties they offered us $30,000

1:43:59

a piece for the 10 units and just walk away and and the board unanimously said

1:44:04

no we got $110,000 a unit that’s quite a

1:44:10

difference we talked about this board about anywhere from from a a deck to a

1:44:19

nuclear power plant to a deep water pump and we all know about that this

1:44:27

board and the board I’m on worked very hard to get this uh deep water pump so

1:44:34

we can transfer water from one portion of the town to another portion of the town and we’ve now had somebody come in

1:44:43

and tie us up into a lawsuit a frivolous lawsuit in my

1:44:49

opinion and during that hearing I lost my temper and I have since apologized to

1:44:55

every board member because it’s not the way we’re supposed to represent this town I’ve apologized

1:45:03

to personally to a couple of the board members because that’s not the way this

1:45:09

town deserves to be represented but I I just cannot let

1:45:16

somebody come into a room and our our board is based totally on facts we have

1:45:23

no political agenda we have no political rights we are a fact based board and

1:45:30

when somebody comes in and misrepresents those facts so brutally that that it

1:45:37

it’s ridiculous and then sues us and costs us millions of dollars one

1:45:44

attorney has cost this town millions of dollars in frivolous lawsuits and

1:45:53

sometimes you get a little angry but we’re getting through it other than that

1:45:59

our board is pretty good

1:46:05

board yeah yeah hi Mr main thank you for coming in and I’m I’m glad you’re uh

1:46:12

reapplying you know the zoning board of appeals is basically you got to follow the laws and

1:46:20

people get before the boards they don’t if you have to deal with the if they

1:46:25

don’t get their way sometimes they’re going to they’re threaten to sue you they appeal it it gets frustrating you

1:46:31

know as a select person I’ve seen it here you know there’s certain people that come all the time and criticize us

1:46:37

and uh you got to have thick skin and what I like about you and you and I have never we never got along politically you

1:46:45

and I were always on the other side of of candidates and issues but life goes on since I’ve been a since I’ve been a

1:46:52

selectboard member I’ve got a I’ve got a whole new respect for you cuz I watch the way you handle yourself I know you

1:46:58

flew off the handle you called me after that and apologize which you didn’t have to do that but so

1:47:06

I you need to have thick skin and to be able to handle handle the issues that go

1:47:12

through that board and and I I I see that you do that and that’s why I’m going to vote to reappoint you and I’m

1:47:18

glad you’re reapplying thank you thank you Mr Mr

1:47:25

KY thank you good evening Mr M um so Mr main you touched on it in

1:47:32

your remarks to be candid with you I’ve received when I was running for select

1:47:38

board and even prior to that I have received a number of complaints and I

1:47:43

think in relation to the issue you were referring to earlier but um about sort

1:47:49

of DEC Quorum before the the zoning Board of the zoning board of appeals um I’m I’m a criminal defense

1:47:56

attorney so I’ve never appeared before this zoning board of appeals or any other zoning board of appeals but I have

1:48:02

appeared before judges um many times um I I joke I’ve uh you argued in front of

1:48:10

every judge in the state often as a lawyer um but I uh I think the the issue

1:48:18

that I have when in front of some judges a difficult judge on philosophy is one

1:48:25

thing they can sometimes make you raise your game up to their qualifications you have to know the law you have to have

1:48:31

the right arguments you have to have the facts on your side if you don’t have the facts on your side the law on your side you don’t have either of those you bang

1:48:37

the table you know that type of thing but what can be difficult and unpleasant

1:48:42

as an as a attorney is when you’re in front of a a judge or a panel that is

1:48:50

indecorous towards you as a litigant uh either uh unpleasant towards you

1:48:55

shouting at you yelling at you getting upset in ways that are unprofessional because at the end of the day we agree

1:49:01

with each other we don’t agree with each other we all have a right to be heard we all have that uh and we want to be

1:49:06

treated like human beings so I guess could you expand and I’m not interested

1:49:12

in the individual’s name or any about about that but do you if you were

1:49:19

reappointed how would you handle the issue of decorum at the zoning board of appeals going forward decorum has always

1:49:25

been a very very important thing with the zoning board and I lost my temper and it’s not

1:49:35

acceptable and I have since tried to make amends and I will tell you Mr kanty

1:49:41

the only person I will not apologize to is that particular attorney because

1:49:47

you’re an attorney you’re an officer of of the court you are sworn to tell the

1:49:53

truth and this attorney did everything but that

1:50:01

and we’re volunteers we sit there for hours and hours and hours and when you sit there

1:50:07

for hours and hours and hours and listen to that you can sometimes get a little

1:50:13

testy I’m sure it’s happened to you but other than that no we have no

1:50:20

right to to insult people browbeat people intimidate people none of

1:50:27

that and if that that particular litigant might appear before you again

1:50:32

would you be decorous towards him or her I will bite my tongue until I got a

1:50:39

mouthful of blood all right thank you for the Vivid

1:50:49

response any other questions from Mr

1:50:57

Man thank you thank you is Mr Connor

1:51:06

here Mr Holm Donald Holm Mr chairman um Mr Connor stated he

1:51:13

was not able to attend um due to a work

1:51:18

conflict Mr Hol did he respond also or

1:51:29

no I I have not heard from okay Mr Hol and Mr

1:51:48

Wallace thank you Mr chair chairman members of the board for the record my name is Tom Wallace I reside at 30

1:51:54

Highland Terrace in mant previously of Warren Avenue and I’ve been a resident

1:52:00

of Plymouth since 1975 I’m applying for the alternate position on the zba uh obviously the

1:52:07

issues that faces EBA with people who own property there is from time to time

1:52:12

contention there is from time to time people with very strong and diverse opinions on what might be best and of

1:52:19

course the role of the zba is to listen carefully try to as much as possible

1:52:25

find common ground but eventually to have to make a decision as many of you know I have a long history in terms of

1:52:31

be involved in zoning Andor creating zoning ordinances although I’m not a

1:52:36

lawyer there are other qualified people here who are attorneys uh but I’ve had

1:52:42

the pleasure of retaining them over the years I’d appreciate your vote and we’ll answer any questions any questions from

1:52:49

Mr Mr Wallace Mr

1:52:55

KY um Anthony we’re we’ve posted for two

1:53:01

full voting seats not an alternate at this time correct that’s correct yes so

1:53:06

Mr Wallace if we in theoretically if we were to uh fill the two incumbent seats

1:53:11

with other applicants that if one of those applicants was this applicant that is currently an alternate that would

1:53:18

create a vacancy on that seat um but that one isn’t posted on our

1:53:23

agenda for this evening we could though discuss that and put it in admin notes

1:53:28

for a future meeting just to comply with the open meeting law um but I guess you

1:53:35

only do just to be clear you only want an alternate seat you’re not looking that’s correct Mr KY okay so if if we

1:53:41

were to do what I suggested or that theoretical and we put two other people

1:53:47

one of them being potentially uh in the hypothetical the person in the alternate

1:53:52

you would have no objection to us putting you in there on admin notes on a future meeting if I understand what

1:53:58

you’re saying is if you you have one opening in the full-time position we

1:54:03

have we have two but we didn’t post on the agenda because we’re not we’re not currently seeking someone in an

1:54:10

alternate on my I believe on my application I did indicate that it was for the alternate position so whatever

1:54:16

whatever manner you have to take to make that happen for meeting law I’m very comfortable with that okay I just wanted

1:54:22

to be clear just thank you thank you Mr blon did you have your hand up

1:54:28

Sir no I just wanted to make a comment that uh well first of all I’d like to

1:54:34

ask the town manager if if we two other people get appointed can we can we just

1:54:40

make a motion to no we can’t do it no we didn’t adver we didn’t advertise for a

1:54:46

temporary position then uh what I have to say I’ll say save for a future meeting but I just think your expertise

1:54:54

is an alter you wouldn’t be voting so there’d be no conflicts and but your expertise on that board would be be very

1:55:01

valuable so uh thank you Mr blon I would like to see you in that position but we

1:55:07

have to wait thank you Mr chairman I’ll make a motion that

1:55:13

we move uh Mr Michael M and Mr Peter Connor as U the two three-year nominees

1:55:19

for those positions I’ll second that motion by Mr Mahoney second by Mr bler

1:55:27

discussion I know Mr Connor isn’t here tonight but I he has extensive zoning board of appeals in Plymouth experience

1:55:34

I believe more than Mr Maine Buster is that true and I know he was a long time

1:55:41

chairman of that body and once again another individual took a sabatical came back as an alternate and uh he’s more

1:55:47

than qualified Mr

1:55:52

KY thank you so um we have a situation

1:55:57

here where we have an incumbent that came and appeared before us we have another uh current an individual

1:56:05

occupying an alternate seat that couldn’t come before us because of a work conflict that did reach out to us

1:56:11

about that uh then we have another applicant that is not in the part of the

1:56:16

motion uh that didn’t peer or reach out to us about about um that so I just I

1:56:26

have a problem putting someone in a position that just applies and doesn’t show up to answer questions or at least

1:56:31

tell us I would come but I have a work conflict I understand that people have other things going on in their life um

1:56:37

but that’s why I I can’t I will support the motion because Mr Connor isn’t here

1:56:43

but he did reach out to us about why he can’t be here um and I would also for

1:56:48

the record I think uh since it’s not on the agenda um but I I think for the purposes of discussion I

1:56:55

have no problem with Mr Wallace occupying the alternate seat if we wanted to put that on uh an admin notes

1:57:01

in the future or on a substantive agenda item in the future so we could but he did come in unlike other folks to answer

1:57:09

questions and uh so I think that that should be noted and I appreciate Mr wall is doing that thank you Mr bler yeah Mr

1:57:16

chairman so should we just take the vote separate we’ll just vote you know for the two

1:57:23

seats and because we have one gentleman that’s two gentleman that not here and

1:57:30

we we know we’re not making so it doesn’t look like we’re giving preferential treatment to to one of the

1:57:36

gentleman that’s not here well no I mean we have a motion and a second and you

1:57:42

you second it I’ll take the second back if why are you taking the second back

1:57:47

want to replace it so we do it separ we we’ll vote for the two seats so there’s no conflict that’s what we’re

1:57:53

doing you’re taking them together yeah oh you want to take the seat separate so we don’t so we don’t get in other words

1:58:00

the fourth whatever’s that Mr Holm is not here and uh I don’t want him to you

1:58:08

know say why wasn’t I part of that motion so if we just vote separately for the two

1:58:15

seats or just it would serve the same purpose you’re just voting on them as a group so yeah okay whatever I’m just

1:58:21

trying to we can if you want to retract a second we could vote on I just want to

1:58:27

do what what’s correct that’s all I want I don’t want any issues uh I see people taking notes in the room and I don’t

1:58:33

want to be accused of doing anything unethical uh we’ve had enough of that in my last two years

1:58:41

so if you’re comfortable this is the way to do this then yeah this is perfect this is okay I’ll set I’ll second it

1:58:48

okay so we have a first by I think it’s Mr KY so Mr Mahoney now Mr Mahoney made the

1:58:56

motion BL second okay Mr bletzer yes Mr

1:59:03

Helm no Mr KY yes Mr Mahoney yes and myself

1:59:13

yes Mr Helm is a no so Mr is back on the incumbent and Mr

1:59:24

Conor moves from the alternate to the full-time position and I also just want

1:59:29

to comment on uh Mr Conor I I sat

1:59:34

in almost a half a year zba hearings and he’s a a very

1:59:40

well respected rounded guy and uh I was

1:59:46

kind of the one that kind of talked to him in the reappointment for the alternate job because um I I know what

1:59:51

he brought to that board so thank you both no I’d like to

1:59:57

Echo that too dick what you said thank you Charlie

2:00:04

okay and we’re going to take care of the other alternate uh at a future meeting

2:00:09

next meeting next meeting you have we’ll advertise that appropriately and then

2:00:16

we’ll bring it back a bit okay thank you anyone wishing to speak under public

2:00:23

comment Mr

2:00:28

ciri Rich ciry Precinct 2 I just want to say that I’m very disappointed that you

2:00:35

did not allow comments from the public when you were discussing and then

2:00:41

deliberating on the CPC appointment many of us came to discuss

2:00:47

that and um I don’t understand why the public was shut out from that discussion

2:00:55

I won’t go through the comments I wanted to make because it would be like crying over spilled milk the milk has been

2:01:02

spilled already but um I disagree with the way in which that was done and also I

2:01:09

disagree with the result I just wanted to go on

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record Mr chairman we also have Nicole O’Brien that’s on V on Via

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Zoom Pat Adelman town meeting member from

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Precinct 12 can you please turn on your microphone Pat Adelman Precinct 12 um I

2:01:40

just want to say that there were act accusations made by the

2:01:45

applicants one about the zoning board court of appeal and somebody who

2:01:51

appeared there and said blatant lies well I think that’s an accusation it’s

2:02:00

an opinion not a fact and the other accusation was for the conser the

2:02:07

community preservation committee applicant who said the um procurement

2:02:13

law was violated and I think that also needs an explanation you can’t throw out

2:02:19

these Acquisitions without letting somebody defend themselves and to give a a

2:02:27

statement of evidence thank

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you Mrs gako just one moment I have somebody on Zoom want to

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zoom Nicole can you unmute yourself I had to mute yourself

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back hi can you hear me yes sure can hi there

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so I just wanted to address um the issue that was brought forward earlier and as the gentleman said before I’m not quite

2:03:01

sure why the public comment is after the vote um but I would like to um readdress

2:03:07

and have brought forth the note from before um because I emailed you guys and

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so I wanted to bring to your attention the notes from the meeting from now 922

2:03:19

2020 and they say as follows the town of Plymouth in collaboration with and fully

2:03:27

paid for by the 501c3 nonprofit organization Plymouth pred Inc will indefinitely install the rainbow

2:03:34

crosswalk as pictured in the sample designed emailed to the board at the first crosswalk south of the Water

2:03:40

Street in South Park AV roundabout a memorandum of understanding will be written between the town of Plymouth and

2:03:45

Plymouth Pride Inc to formalize the agreement that this installation upkeep will be funded by Plymouth Pride Inc so

2:03:52

my point in reading that is that if you hear it correctly the town of Plymouth did this and we will pay for the upkeep

2:03:59

and so the fact that there’s not a memor of memorandum of understanding doesn’t really change anything because that is a

2:04:06

separate issue about how it should be done not whether it was done or not and so we have many many things in town that

2:04:13

have been put in the same exact way and put in indefinitely and that doesn’t bind the board to keep that forever if

2:04:21

they wish to go forward and make a motion to get rid of the crosswalk they’re welcome to do so now we brought

2:04:28

forward this um you know request because we were told to do so by the town but I

2:04:35

respectfully Friday morning and today sent you guys emails re uh you know

2:04:41

withdrawing my request because without the request this crosswalk still stands it is redundant for us to be voting on

2:04:47

something that is is already there the vote would be needed to get rid of it but the vote is not needed to keep it

2:04:54

and so I’m not really sure um again I don’t really know why the

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vote happened and then we had the comment you know public comment an hour and a half later um but yeah that’s

2:05:06

that’s I I think that respectfully I would like to withdraw um the request to

2:05:11

be honest because we can make a memorandum of understanding about how it should be played out without us voting

2:05:19

because it doesn’t need to be revoted on and frankly we don’t want to set a precedent that you guys went ahead and

2:05:24

set the precedent last year on your own by voting on it last year when that was already unnecessary so we can we can

2:05:32

table it until the next time and that’s what I think is the right thing to do so that we can find out more information

2:05:37

about it okay so you want us to withdraw our

2:05:44

motion I want you to withdraw my request for the crosswalk so that there is no request the

2:05:51

crosswalk stands as it is we don’t need to redundantly vote on it every year if somebody want motion that the crosswalk

2:05:59

will not stand if she withdraws her request that that crosswalk will not be painted I can’t tell who’s speaking who

2:06:05

is that D this is the to manager if you withdraw your request this evening the crosswalk will not be painted there is

2:06:11

no crosswalk respectfully Mr brandes you’re incorrect and if you read the

2:06:16

town meeting minutes that is exactly I have read them multiple times and we

2:06:21

have Town council’s opinion a prior board as you’ve been told multiple times

2:06:27

a prior board as you’ve been told a prior board cannot bind a future board

2:06:33

the crosswalk has been torn apart due to the construction if you do not want the crosswalk then Bard I’m sure will be

2:06:40

happy to abide by your request D Derek Derek we’re not saying we don’t want the crosswalk what we’re saying is is that

2:06:47

you’re interpreting the the meeting minutes incorrectly what we’re saying is is that just like the other

2:06:52

installations from the high school students at Brewster Garden that are not revoted on every year the artwork that

2:06:58

is on the electrical boxes that are not voted on every year because they’re indefinite installations we have a no

2:07:03

place for hate pledge and the signs by no place for hate are here every year not revoted on because that would be

2:07:09

redundant because they’re there indefinitely the board is not bound to those because the board can come back at any point and say hey we don’t really

2:07:16

want time don’t we don’t really want these noral place for hate signs we can vote them out and that is what makes the

2:07:23

board not bound to it forever and ever really they can make a motion to get rid

2:07:29

of the crosswalk that you heard the response from the town manager we’re good anony I would like to speak with

2:07:35

the town attorneys before we make the vote because making a public comment an hour and a half

2:07:41

after okay acting like this is going to get you nowhere thank you she asked what do she

2:07:48

asking us

2:07:57

to she asks for the board to withdraw her application to have a crosswalk

2:08:03

painted if she withdraws the application have a crosswalk painted then the DPW would not put the crosswalk back in

2:08:10

place it’s that

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simple hold on I checking to see exactly what it is we voted on hold

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on there’s a lot there’s a lot of words tonight yeah it’s a big

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packet okay it what we voted on was item number three under administrative notes

2:08:46

the board will vote to authorize the request of an installation of a rainbow

2:08:52

crosswalk on Water Street pending the completion of the Water Street sewer

2:08:58

Interceptor Improvement project as determined by the Department of Public

2:09:03

Works so we voted to authorize a

2:09:10

request and and am I correct that the request was just withdrawn

2:09:18

that’s what I heard yes she withdrew her request

2:09:25

so do we I I mean if she withdrew her request

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our vote is is our vote null at this point the request has just been

2:09:37

withdrawn so we need to even vote you would have to um make a motion to resend

2:09:43

a reconsider but a request no longer exists and what we voted we already can

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I Mr Helm yeah so we we voted on number

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three when the request did exist so we acted upon it when it existed so if we

2:10:02

don’t do anything nothing changes other than her being angry about whatever she’s angry about but the we voted when

2:10:10

there was a request we’ve now voted uh to to act upon that request and then

2:10:17

subsequently after it’s already been voted upon she’s attempting to to withdraw the request that’s not how it

2:10:22

works if we don’t do anything which I suggest that we don’t because I think

2:10:28

whatever issue that individual has with the process I don’t think it

2:10:34

should um bear out on the rest of the community that would be affected by

2:10:40

having this tetatet in public so the request was acted on while it was still

2:10:45

active we’re still in good standing if we don’t do anything to act on the request thanks for that clarification U

2:10:52

Mr KY um and I agree with you about not um reconsidering or anything and let

2:11:00

let our original vote to move forward because without that we’re talking

2:11:08

about you know to go back in time and figure out what was voted on three years

2:11:15

ago um would cause I think an un un unfortunate delay in the painting of

2:11:22

that crosswalk so anyway so I I agree with you Mr candy

2:11:28

thank you Mrs

2:11:33

skako um I just want to um address Miss

2:11:39

adelman’s um insinuation that it was an accusation of what I said about CPC um

2:11:47

and just for the fact it is not an accusation it is a fact CPC violated

2:11:54

Chapter 30 of the procurement law and paid $177,000 to dismantle a home on The Seer

2:12:02

property without going through procurement and getting three bids that’s not made up that’s a fact I just

2:12:09

wanted to clarify that anyone else wishing to speak on a

2:12:17

public comment

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ma’am did you want to speak on the public comment sure I did oh oh is it you go okay so the reason

2:12:39

that rev voting on it doesn’t make sense is because that makes it redundant the crosswalk is already voted

2:12:47

in with the in with the indefinite decision that was made in 2020 so if you revote on again you’re

2:12:54

setting a precedent that it needs to be voted on every single year I’m not saying we don’t want the crosswalk I’m

2:13:00

saying it’s already been voted in and all we need to do is make a memorandum of understanding that’s what I’m saying

2:13:06

I had to run all the way up here to have a conversation with you I P you shut me off totally rude it’s unbelievable because they’re

2:13:13

really inap disrespectful to this board I will do it every

2:13:18

I was tell you can talk and make your point politely just like we’re expected to right but when I’m telling you that

2:13:25

you you have to seek legal counsel on this I really do believe and I think you should table it for now I think that’s the best decision I don’t think the town

2:13:31

should make a decision either way right now that’s what because the crosswalk technically should already be there so

2:13:37

if you vote on it you’re setting a precedent that it has to be voted on every year and that’s something that you guys did yourselves last year but I

2:13:43

didn’t put a request in for that that was unnecessary the vote from 201 20 stands and the memorandum of

2:13:50

understanding is all that needs to be taken care of rev voting on it right now the reason I’m withdrawing it is not because I don’t want the crosswalk the

2:13:56

reason I’m withdrawing it is because we don’t want to set the precedent that it has to be done every year it doesn’t need to be done every year because in

2:14:02

order for the town to not be required to do this um to be bound by a previous

2:14:07

board they’re not we all know that anybody could just come in and say we want to put up a thing that says we don’t want the crosswalk anymore and

2:14:13

then you guys could vote on that so that would get rid of it that means that it’s not indefinite really but that’s in the wording so that we don’t have to revote

2:14:19

every year year after year I hope that you understand what I’m saying that’s the reason for my withdrawal because the

2:14:25

crosswalk should still stand even with the

2:14:30

withdrawal anyone else wishing to speak on the public comment

2:14:38

okay veterans Conant update dere sure I can provide a just a quick update I know

2:14:44

Mr chairman you had wanted to highlight this as we had into the 4th of July festivities and um so I I just wanted to

2:14:52

just let the folks know that on July 1st at 6 p.m. at Memorial Hall there will be

2:14:57

a free concert um country music star Ricky Lee will be here in town to

2:15:03

provide such concert there’ll be a guest committing by the name of Wayne sorz as well um our veterans agent roxan whach

2:15:13

uh she was the one that organized this and apparently uh Ricky Lee had been here in the past and um uh many people

2:15:19

enjoyed his uh his music so again as we head into the Fourth of July festivities and you will hear about the parade in

2:15:25

just a few minutes uh Ricky Lee will be here again on July 1st at 6m at Memorial

2:15:32

Hall any questions thank you Derek Fourth of

2:15:38

July parade events update

2:15:46

welcome okay so three weeks from almost about right now um we will uh be gathering at

2:15:55

the waterfront for some fireworks so that was this is probably one of the longer select board meetings I’ve I’ve waited to talk about the 4th of July a

2:16:01

long time so M Mr tarus didn’t you mean two weeks did I say three well it would

2:16:07

be two weeks from tonight yeah so I’ve lost track of all time lost days Li

2:16:16

you uh okay let’s move on um so in two weeks uh we are going to be going

2:16:23

through the Fourth of July festivities and in light of kind of the hour and I know you still have some more um agenda

2:16:30

items to get through um I’m just going to try and keep it as briefly as possible um again um we’re going to be

2:16:38

doing the uh eth annual uh 5K um

2:16:43

stepping off from Stevens Field at 7:30 in the morning um the the Fourth of July

2:16:48

parade will be at uh stepping off from cordage park at 9:00 a.m. and I’m going to have Jeff get into that in a few

2:16:54

moments the P Plymouth philarmonic concert will be at 7:30 p.m. at the DCR

2:17:00

Pilgrim Memorial Park and the fireworks at approximately about this time in two weeks uh about 9ish or um at dusk we’ll

2:17:08

have three full barges again this year um of fireworks which um will uh set off

2:17:14

over the harbor um we also just want to highlight that down in the pilgrim

2:17:20

Memorial Park uh in the morning um we’ll have Alden Park uh food truck and moms on the go again this year um and then

2:17:28

they’ll also be there throughout the day and then uh into the evening um just to kind of put a bow on

2:17:36

this I think I’d want to bring Jeff uh or actually what I’d like to do is thank our our committee um jados manky Mark

2:17:43

Wells and Marie Winchester and Je and and Jeff metf and Kent Taris for um

2:17:49

putting together um I think what’s going to be a fun day hopefully we have nice weather and um we uh We’ve successfully

2:17:58

um been fundraising throughout this year and we uh we we can always use more and

2:18:04

um there’s actually one more Monday I think that we have left in June um so

2:18:09

everybody order up your squinnies pizzas um as uh the fundraiser uh is going to the July 4th committee so we greatly

2:18:16

appreciate that we appreciate all our sponsors we’ve been um talking about them through our social media channels

2:18:22

and we’ll be talking about them and highlighting them down on the waterfront as we go through the parade uh the parade will also be uh televised on pack

2:18:29

TV um and we’ve um worked with pack TV uh to um actually have the um parade um

2:18:38

uh miked up this year so um people can um and hear and understand what uh

2:18:44

different um entities are going by throughout the uh morning morning so jefff I’m going to turn it over to you

2:18:53

um thanks Matt Mr chairman board members thanks for uh having us this evening um

2:19:00

we’ve put up on the wall uh if you can see it this is the uh a site plan of the

2:19:06

cordage park facility um the the large box on this side here is the uh The

2:19:13

Brick Mill building with the with the tower and then on the right side is the

2:19:19

um uh is the concrete building um uh that’s called Mill number three and Mill

2:19:25

number one but the point is if you’re participating in the parade um along the bottom of the screen here is Route three

2:19:32

or Court Street and uh so as you’re coming into the park um to um to be

2:19:39

participate and uh in the parade lineup what you want to do is uh come to the

2:19:45

come to the right and go toward the ocean because what you want to do is come around behind the brick building so

2:19:52

if you follow along the pond like you’re going to the ocean as you come around the back um along here we will greet you

2:20:01

right here um because um anybody participating um we generally find that

2:20:07

whoever does the application is the only person in the group that knows what division they’re in everybody else

2:20:14

doesn’t so we need to uh talk to the participants and see who they’re with

2:20:20

and if they they are participating they got a float they continue past the 1620

2:20:25

Winery and um where the mill store used to be and on this back parking lot are

2:20:31

the three divisions division one obviously being closer to the street because they’re the ones they’re the

2:20:37

first ones to leave division two is in the middle and division three is again closer to where the mill store was um so

2:20:45

and then the other point I want to make as you come around the building uh again and you come up to where we’re standing

2:20:53

here anybody that has a child that is going to be on one of the floats but

2:20:59

they’re just dropping them off what you do is you pull up here and you’ll be able to go back and around along the

2:21:05

back of the building to get out of the parking lot you don’t have to come through uh division one two and three

2:21:12

you simply drop the person off here and then and then um drive toward the back

2:21:17

of the building and come out the front as you came in uh the the idea is to not

2:21:23

cross people um just dropping off uh their children the the other thing is we

2:21:28

will have this area blocked off because the dialysis uh Clinic needs to remain

2:21:34

open and so we’ve kind of um blocked some of these areas so people going to the clinic um has a has a place to park

2:21:42

but essentially we’re we’re using the perimeter um parking area round anyways

2:21:50

um so uh as Matt mentioned the parade does start at nine o’clock so at 8:45

2:21:56

will’ll begin to come closer to uh to coming back out at Court Street and

2:22:02

right at um 8:45 the um the fire engines from uh the

2:22:07

various region uh will be coming down the street uh and so they will go first

2:22:13

at 8:45 8 850 and then we’ll pull p in right behind them and uh join join the

2:22:20

lineup down to the Waterfront so um got a pretty good uh group of uh people

2:22:26

participating uh floats bans uh all all of that uh um pump and Circumstance for

2:22:33

a good parade and we’re just hoping the uh the weather is good and um we’re looking looking forward to it um and uh

2:22:41

it’s just amazing it’s two weeks away you know but um there’s any questions um

2:22:47

and Marie do you want to come up and talk about the road

2:22:54

race hi everyone can you hear me okay can never tell with a microphone um I’m

2:23:00

in Marie Winchester I’m not only part of the parade committee but I’m also um

2:23:05

Sasha race management who is the person that I know you all love that I put all of those Runners on the road throughout

2:23:11

the year so um our road race is looking really good right now um we’re hovering

2:23:16

around 500 Runners so we’ll probably have around 800 people that will be heading out of Stevens Field um 7:30

2:23:24

a.m. they leave Stevens Field they’re just going to go um right out of Stevens Field Down sandwich to Main Street

2:23:30

Extension Main Court of course all one road taking a right on Nelson following it back Water Street back to um Union

2:23:38

and taking that left right back into Stevens Field they’re just doing that one Loop um it’s 3 miles we will have

2:23:45

all of the runners off the road by 8 30ish um so in plenty of time for the

2:23:51

parade to get down there they the roads will be clear um the Waterfront itself

2:23:56

will be closing at 7 will be closing by 7: a.m. the food trucks the the uh Phil

2:24:02

harmonic those people will all be in earlier so that their trucks will be in there prior to the race starting um the

2:24:10

road will be re it will be closed throughout the entire day right through the fireworks the food trucks will be

2:24:15

down there all day long starting at 7:00 in the morning of course they won’t be serving food that early but um we do

2:24:21

have the Alden Park truck and for anybody that’s not familiar with Mom on the go that they do gourmet grilled

2:24:27

cheese they um they were there throughout the day they’ll bring in a second truck in the afternoon to um

2:24:33

handle the crowd for the um concert and the fireworks and um that’s about all I have

2:24:39

does anyone have any questions any questions great thank you just a quick

2:24:46

one quick one for Mr Taris Mr Taris so last year um our

2:24:54

fearless uh New Town manager had just only been on the job for three or four months and he walked in his first

2:25:00

Plymouth Fourth of July parade I remember he only walked in it with myself so it was him and I solo and we

2:25:06

were leading the parade so I just want to make so the select board is invited to walk in the parade and I think we’re

2:25:13

up front with a town of Plymouth banner yes that’s right um so I’ll extend the

2:25:19

invitation again I did I did extend it um at the last it was so long ago now at

2:25:25

this point couple weeks ago I did extend that invitation as always um that and

2:25:31

I’ve even spoken I believe with Charlie and Mr bletzer Excuse me and and and we spoke about um potentially uh uh having

2:25:39

everybody there or whoever uh is available that day to be there and of course the town manager I know he had a

2:25:45

wonderful time last time so nothing personally about the town manager but I need more company this time you need

2:25:50

more okay well that sounds like um a you problem um I’ll bring my grandson like Memorial

2:25:57

day just for the record I I was there but I was with the state that is true State delegation it was a little mix up

2:26:04

because I invited you and yeah I did

2:26:09

so well let’s not have all controversy tonight shall we thank you thank you now

2:26:16

thank thank you for your support and thank you for letting us uh come before you a couple times this year um we tried to bring it down a little bit um because

2:26:23

I know that um there are times where we we’re coming every week and it’s a little redundant um like I I I will put

2:26:30

in a last plug though we could always use um more um funds sometimes we get

2:26:36

bills uh after the Fourth of July that are unexpected so um any you know I I

2:26:41

think my favorite social media post that we put out there this year um was speaking to

2:26:47

um if if all the town residents in Plymouth uh so call it 60 or 65,000 each

2:26:54

gave $2 um we would absolutely cover the Fourth of July cost um

2:26:59

instantaneously um so it’s it’s it’s kind of a fascinating fact um and then I also like to thank all of our businesses

2:27:06

are in in Plymouth all of our small businesses um and restaurants that have

2:27:11

stepped up um heated the call and uh and and have contributed um they go above

2:27:17

and beyond every year and and it’s greatly appreciated thank you and thank you to

2:27:23

all you put in the endless hours of organizing and all that goes into that

2:27:29

so the town thanks you all right exactly nice job thank

2:27:34

you and for all those in public safety and everywhere else that are out that day they’re out it’s I think it’s

2:27:41

mandatory that’re out there every year on the fourth and other Hol so thank you

2:27:48

to all well

2:27:55

done for Rising cable license agreement you saw

2:28:08

that good evening Paul MC chair of Thea of the cable advisory committee for L

2:28:15

some of our audience which isn’t good for cable TV I’m afraid but

2:28:20

uh first of all she got my glasses on sitting here too

2:28:29

long first of all I wish to thank the other members of our cable advisory

2:28:34

committee alen Leven who’s sitting will be here and I’m told Sean mullen’s on

2:28:41

Zoom um they’re all I’m thanking them for all their hard work and continued support

2:28:49

also we like to thank uh attorney Bill huig of KP law for his guidance uh

2:28:54

throughout this process our committee is here to recommend to the select board as the

2:29:01

issuing authority for cable licenses in the town of Plymouth the approval and

2:29:06

execution of the renewal license for Verizon New England Inc we have reached this conclusion

2:29:13

after much deliberation and efforts that included a townwide survey in order to measure

2:29:20

resident satisfaction uh with this cable content provider I would be remiss in not

2:29:27

mentioning those people who also helped along the way especially in the distribution of the survey

2:29:34

material that would include Lyn Barrett in from the finance department

2:29:41

Joe kandola who helped getting the survey reply Cards into the res

2:29:46

president’s mailboxes m Michelle Brady of Cal who promoted the survey in their social

2:29:53

media and neweta and Kelsey Casey Who provided the survey material at the public

2:30:01

libraries I’d like to also to thank Judy Fran executive director of the Pine

2:30:06

Hills land Owners Association for her use of her

2:30:12

newsletter and the folks at the Plymouth Moose Lodge for including survey info

2:30:18

information in their social media uh I would like to U my comments

2:30:26

are very brief I don’t know in he I don’t know if Sean’s out there somewhere

2:30:32

will have some something to say or Brad you have anything to add no um we

2:30:41

understand that you’ve had a full agenda this evening so I’m keeping this brief but we are prepared to answer any

2:30:47

questions that you may have thank you very much any questions or comments from

2:30:53

board members Mr Mahoney y Paul thanks for hanging in there for

2:30:59

the duration of this lengthy meeting I certainly appreciate it I I can’t remember when you were here

2:31:06

last but I do know that we you know there was a lot of questions with respect to the status of the um the

2:31:13

state of the what do we call this what what are people watch on cable industry cable

2:31:19

industry and and how how the the industry is constantly changing and it’s

2:31:25

evolving to more of a I don’t know a menu based well listen I’m I’m only 55 and

2:31:31

it’s already passed me by but having said that I know that with respect to revenue and what kind of agreement were

2:31:37

we going to get so is this just a baseline can you just encapsulate what we finally arrived at well there um two

2:31:45

things there some there there’s obviously facts and there’s speculation as to what the future will hold for

2:31:52

residents of Plymouth in terms of their Cable contacts we know that uh the cable

2:32:00

industry is declining um the subscribers ships to

2:32:06

carcast and Verizon the two providers in Plymouth has declined every year five

2:32:13

six 7% um the um adjacent bad news to that is that

2:32:21

the uh cable fees that are collected through the bills for Peg access is also

2:32:29

declining because no cable bill no Peg fee so the speculation there is that uh

2:32:38

we need to be prepared to find a find ways over the next uh few years and you

2:32:45

just extend ended my term so I’m still with you um and we’ll be sitting down

2:32:52

our committee and addressing the ways we

2:32:57

can deal with a decline in cable revenues which translates to the peg

2:33:04

fees which keeps Ed TV which is very popular in town pack TV which is very

2:33:11

supportive of programming now and Ed especially because Ed TV educational

2:33:17

television is riing entirely right now on the revenue from the the fees through

2:33:24

the cable bills so so what do we do so I’m not going to speculate here

2:33:30

everything’s on the table let’s put it that way we’re going to take the summer off at least I am I don’t know about Lyn

2:33:38

and satday in the fall will’ll be since in our committee will be addressing

2:33:45

those issues because it’s a real issue and it otherwise if you wanted to continue at TV without Peg fees you’d be

2:33:53

looking at uh impact to the tax base and we try that may be in the picture some

2:34:00

part of that I’m not saying that but we have to put everything on the table to see where we go down the road with a

2:34:08

declining uh volume of cable subscribership in the town of Plymouth

2:34:13

is that answer your question sort of no no that’s excellent thank you

2:34:21

okay yeah hi Paul first of all I don’t know if people realize your background

2:34:27

and how much work you put into this committee we’re lucky to have you and not just because you came from Brighton

2:34:33

but uh we’re just real lucky to have you Brighton DNA you’re you’re a hard worker

2:34:40

and you know I’ve talked to you and I have talked about uh this cable situation and we’re we’re a few years

2:34:45

away away from not having cable and I I know you talked about everybody

2:34:51

streaming now and is is they’re going to be legislature something enacted so they

2:34:56

they’re going to to pay fees so we can so because you know that’s how pack is

2:35:02

funded pack TV right there’s uh bills in the house and in the Senate which are

2:35:09

lounging around there to regulate in a deeper way the streaming industry right

2:35:16

uh those and those bills include a fees to be imposed on the subscribership to

2:35:23

to uh streaming television so the contract that Verizon

2:35:28

signing how many years is it uh that contract uh is for five years and that

2:35:34

that tells you doesn’t that tell you that if if they speculation they had a

2:35:40

15year license it expired and at this time and they’ve

2:35:46

asked to be renewed for 5 years but there’s also I think in the cover letter we sent with the executive summary I

2:35:52

mentioned how that introduced a termination provision in that license

2:35:58

which could effectively terminate it within 3 years so that’s kind of the

2:36:04

window that we’re looking at here I’m not saying that Verizon is going to terminate in three years but they have

2:36:09

that option that’s a unilateral provision by the way and I know uh what

2:36:15

time was it that you started the uh theid their own cable company well cable companies that

2:36:21

Norwood did Norwood yeah but that sounds like you’re chasing a a bad idea because

2:36:27

people are going out of the business why would we go into something we could never afford a $25 million price tag to

2:36:34

do that you have a lot of ground to cover here but so we’ve I think we I say

2:36:39

we and I don’t think Glenn was with us when we first talked about that we kind of Shel that as a good idea well I know

2:36:47

but you you spent a lot of time working on that I appreciate but I’ll let you go at this point it’s been a long night so

2:36:53

yeah it’s okay I’ll thank you for your service thank

2:36:58

you thank you any other questions you have a motion uh I just

2:37:05

sorry I just wanted to make one comment my name is len Lin um I think we should come back in the fall and do a really

2:37:11

deep dive in what’s going on in the technology Industries not so much just

2:37:17

what’s going on with cable TV because there’s a major difference between what Verizon is and what Comcast is and so

2:37:26

like Paul said we’re going to take the summer off and then hopefully in the fall we’ll come back and schedule some time and get into the nitty-gritty of

2:37:34

what’s Happening from what we can tell and doing the planning because he’s

2:37:39

absolutely right for example I don’t have a cable I don’t have cable TV I stream so so if you look at my bill I

2:37:47

don’t have any of those taxes or fees on it and that’s where it’s going and so I

2:37:54

think that’s what we would do and as Paul said that license we are here to ask you to approve that license and sign

2:38:00

it because it expired on Saturday so we need to get it done pry

2:38:06

quickly and and an Anthony has the document for you to sign thank you very

2:38:14

much

2:38:27

motion yeah I’ll make the motion to that we sign that agreements I’ll second motion

2:38:35

by Mr bler second by Mr Helm Mr

2:38:40

bletzer yes Mr Helm yes Mr KY yes Mr Mr Mahoney yes and myself yes

2:38:48

unanimous thank you Mr

2:38:55

KY thank you uh so Lynn I’m I’ve been tasked with

2:39:03

reading this into the record but before I read this into the record I do have a question that I hope you can

2:39:09

answer uh it says to approve the sale in one of these portions to approve the

2:39:14

sale of 2 6,945 th000 then there’s a space then

2:39:22

5.00 General obligation anticipation notes so is it five notes totaling that

2:39:29

27 million figure or is it five notes that cost 27 each it’s it’s well it’s one note uh I

2:39:38

think the five is a five% coupon on the Note

2:39:43

5.00% okay that’s the coupon rate for the note okay so I think that’s what the

2:39:48

five okay it’s just written strangely so I just wanted to read it into the record correctly okay and I don’t I mean you

2:39:55

don’t necessarily have to read it into the record I think if you what ended up happening was the first page of the vote

2:40:03

wasn’t included in your um packets so the clerk has to make sure that you guys

2:40:10

can vote it as written do you know what I mean you don’t necessarily have to read it into the record

2:40:17

unless you want to I mean uh well in In My Memory Bond

2:40:23

Council can be a little picky sure so I guess it although it will take some time

2:40:30

I’d rather do it right than yep um all right so that in

2:40:36

mind that we hereby determine in accordance with Massachusetts General Law chapter 70b that the cost of the

2:40:43

repair projects at the Indian Brook School f Federal furnace Elementary School and West Elementary School

2:40:48

authorized by votes of the Town passed on October 16th 2021 under article 8

2:40:54

being financed with proceeds of a portion of the notes defined below together with all other bonds and notes

2:40:59

of the Town previously issued to pay cost of the projects does not exceed the portion of the total cost of the

2:41:06

projects that are not being paid by the school facilities Grant and we hereby approve the issuance of notes and bonds

2:41:13

to finance such projects under General Massachusetts General Law chapter 70b

2:41:18

further to approve the sale of 26,900 worth of 5% coupon rate General

2:41:25

Bond obligation anticipation notes hereby known as the notes of the Town dated June 28 2023 payable June 28 2024

2:41:35

to JP Morgan Securities llc at par and acred interest if any plus a premium of

2:41:43

$34,320 sense further that in connection with the marketing and sale of the notes the

2:41:49

preparation and distribution of a notice of sale and preliminary official statement dated May 23rd 2023 and a

2:41:57

final official statement dated May 31st 2023 each in such form as may be

2:42:02

approved by the town Treasurer be and hereby are ratified confirmed approved

2:42:08

and adopted further that the town Treasurer and the select board B and hereby are authorized to execute and

2:42:14

deliver a significant events disclosure undertaking in compliance with SEC rule

2:42:19

15c 2-12 in such form as may be approved by Bond Council to the town which

2:42:26

undertaking shall be incorporated by reference in the notes for the benefit of the holders of the notes from time to

2:42:32

time further that we authorize and direct the town Treasurer to establish post Insurance federal tax compliance

2:42:38

procedures and continuing disclosure procedures in such forms as the town Treasurer and bond Council deems

2:42:45

sufficient or if such procedures are currently in place to review and update said procedures in order to Monitor and

2:42:51

maintain the tax exempt status of the notes and to comply with relevant Securities laws further that any

2:42:58

certificates or documents related to the notes collectively known as the documents may be executed in several

2:43:04

counterparts Each of which shall be regarded as an original and all of which shall constitute one and the same

2:43:10

document delivery of an executed counterpart of a signature page to a document by electronic mail in a PDF

2:43:18

file or by other electronic transmission shall be as effective as delivery of a

2:43:23

manually executed counterpart signature page to such document and electronic signatures on any of the documents shall

2:43:30

be deemed original signatures for the purposes of the documents and all matters relating theto having the same

2:43:35

legal effect as original signatures further that each member of the select board the Town Clerk and the town

2:43:40

Treasurer B and hereby are authorized to take any and all such actions and execute and deliver such certificates

2:43:47

receipts or other documents as may be determined by them or any of them to be

2:43:52

necessary or convenient to carry into effect the provisions of the foring

2:43:59

votes thank you my

2:44:05

pleasure is that your motion to approve that is I would make a motion that we

2:44:11

vote consistent with that we have a second can second second by Mr Helm Mr

2:44:19

chairman can I uh I think throw a softball question at the finance director absolutely thank you all right

2:44:26

Lynn I I got a letter up here

2:44:31

um from Patricia meum the treasury

2:44:37

collector so I just want to go over this briefly so we’re looking at borrowing uh

2:44:43

27 million and the general obligation

2:44:49

Bond will have a weighted net interest cost of three and 34 perc okay

2:44:58

Y and then the global ratings has reaffirmed the town’s doublea plus Bond

2:45:04

rating and obviously has very positive comments with respect to the uh Financial Outlook of the community

2:45:12

so just for the Public’s consumption can you just give how often do we do this as

2:45:19

a community this weighted net interest cost of almost a little under

2:45:27

4% where was that a few years ago significantly lower as things are starting to Trend up what are we looking

2:45:33

at and just a just a little generic overview of what we’re doing okay um so what we’re doing is

2:45:41

this is a one-year Bond anticipation note which is includes um probably about

2:45:47

15 to 20 projects um included in this amount so we usually go out to borrow

2:45:54

every year we either borrow um on a shortterm basis um like we’re doing this

2:46:01

year or we borrow on a long-term basis so our plan is next year to do a

2:46:07

borrowing of we’re going to long-term borrow this amount for all of these

2:46:12

projects plus some more Mone that are going to complete those projects for example West Plymouth fire station uh

2:46:20

fire station down in mant um some water manat water project there’s there’s a

2:46:26

whole bunch of projects that are going to continue that we’re performing right

2:46:32

now we we don’t need the money today but we’re going to need the money next year so we’ll do long-term borrowing next

2:46:38

year um the interest rate environment right now as everyone is seeing in their

2:46:45

you know bank accounts they’re earning more interest but you’ve seen that mortgage rates um borrowing rates have

2:46:51

increased also so they’ve increased for us also uh for

2:46:56

example this particular note um the net interest cost is

2:47:02

3.73 7% and what that means is we have a a coupon rate of 5% that we have to pay

2:47:09

to the bond holders but the um we received a premium when we went out to

2:47:16

sell so we got five bids that we provided the information in this packet to you and so the net interest cost is

2:47:23

the lowest net interest cost of those five bids um what happens with the

2:47:28

premium that we receive is we use that premium to reduce the amount that we’re going to borrow next year so for example

2:47:36

we received $343,000 in a premium I think that was

2:47:41

close to the amount that um Kevin mentioned that that premium will use to

2:47:46

reduce the amount that we’re going to borrow for Lake the fires all the different projects that are in here so then you don’t end up incurring interest

2:47:53

costs and all that on that um but as compared to previous years um just for

2:48:00

example and last year at this same time we borrowed I think it was like 4

2:48:06

million uh we received a net interest cost of 1.9% so it’s almost doubled um

2:48:15

the lowest that we’ve ever um in 2020 it was 357 per um back in

2:48:26

2014 it was1 123% so the interest the

2:48:31

interest we have seen a very very very low interest rate market and we have reaped the benefits of that on a lot of

2:48:39

projects that we have borrowed money for so what it looks like for the future is

2:48:44

probably we’re going to do you know this bond issue next year but we may not be

2:48:50

um you know recommending too much borrowing um going into the future until

2:48:55

we sort of see what this Market is settling at because we have a policy of

2:49:00

only spending um 6% of our between six and 8% of our operating budget on debt

2:49:06

service and The Debt Service includes principal and interest so we have to look at that every year to see how that

2:49:12

fits within um the projected budget um so it’s just it’s just cautionary um and

2:49:19

on and on that you have a we have an in-house policy you keep it in the 5 to 7% range yeah six six to8 for The Debt

2:49:27

Service okay 6 to 8% all right Lynn thank you

2:49:33

okay any other questions Mr

2:49:38

bletzer no yes or no I’m sorry yes that

2:49:46

huh no just kidding yes Mr KY yes Mr Mahoney yes and myself

2:49:53

yes thank you

2:49:58

Apper I don’t know

2:50:04

request I’ll take this one so before you tonight there is a request um on the

2:50:10

backup sheet it’s everything in yellow so I’ll read this into the record it’s for Ev vehicles and infrastructure

2:50:15

improvements for 14758 Public Safety dispatch Grant total

2:50:21

of 278,00 th000 which is for the overtime

2:50:28

coverage and um with officers assisting in the transition and also

2:50:34

$178,000 726 um in cost of onetime payment for a

2:50:39

stabilization fund uh there’s also request for 150,000 for Memorial Hall design work and a request for

2:51:02

$831,000 million in arpa funds there is a backup sheet that we have um that’s

2:51:08

outlines those costs we’re not requesting that tonight but there will be requests forthcoming to you and the

2:51:13

key ones on this are a contingency reserve of $2 million so that’s the big piece of that 3.9 and that’ll help cover

2:51:20

uh any extra cost we see from the water um project at downtown so we’re confident in that uh some other ones are

2:51:27

playground updates um DME Town Warf DPW sidewalk sweeper that was one last week

2:51:33

uh water and sewer rate study Seer field bathrooms uh possibly Middle School lights for a football program forges uh

2:51:40

field multi-purpose field design Long Beach stair replacement um and again that total is the 3.9 between all those

2:51:47

projects but we’re not requesting that tonight we need a little bit more time to see what happens with Water Street before we want to free up all of that

2:51:53

money so I’ll hand that out but tonight again it’s just the uh Baseline request that you see in the yellow the EV

2:51:59

Vehicles the public safety dispatch Memorial Hall design and police body War cameras

2:52:05

pack the back Harry’s looking for a

2:52:11

sheet right is this it yeah that’s the that’s the backup that’s the that’s no I

2:52:18

don’t have any backup in my packet did we not add it in Anthony did it come

2:52:25

in good okay so for each project there is

2:52:31

backup that was submitted similar to what we’ve had in the past so I apologize I didn’t make it in but we have a cover letter from every

2:52:38

this this sheet is what is being requested tonight no that sheet is specifically for what is going to be

2:52:45

possibly coming down the line when you if you look at the one cover sheet we have tonight the the four projects that

2:52:51

are in yellow in your packet there should have

2:52:56

been a cover sheet anybody else have a cover sheet that I’m not

2:53:03

seeing no no

2:53:10

nope all right well if you want I’d suggest calling each of the department

2:53:16

heads up and they can explain each of their requests one by one and keeping in

2:53:22

mind that none of us well at least me I’ll only speak for myself doesn’t remember a single word that you just

2:53:29

said when you were introducing these cuz I was busy looking for a piece of paper that’s fine no my apologies I thought it

2:53:35

made into packet um not a problem clearly it did not it happens all right um so we’ll start Mark you want to come

2:53:41

up just talk real quick and this is for the EV uh infrastructure improvements unfortunately we thought we had a grant

2:53:47

um that would be state funded ever Source changed last minute on us and that’s why we have this cost in front of

2:53:54

us good evening um so as Brad mentioned the um originally so this project is to

2:54:01

install two additional charging units on the Cornish parking lot which will add

2:54:06

four plugins for electric vehicle charging um we received $1

2:54:13

4,758 from the Commonwealth through the mass evip uh grant program to cover the

2:54:19

entire costs of the charging hardware and then we applied for the Make Ready

2:54:25

program through eversource which is advertised as covering 100% of the

2:54:30

infrastructure related costs to install these Chargers um in the last moment of

2:54:37

this process ever Source informed us that we were on the hook for 14,7 $158

2:54:45

because we received Grant funds and so the entire project for the infrastructure costs is uh cost

2:54:55

34,42 minus our contribution which is the

2:55:01

14758 eversource is contributing

2:55:14

um with the electric vehicles that we have in our Fleet uh we really would like to get this project going and so

2:55:21

that is where the request for

2:55:43

$4,753.14

2:55:49

good evening Dana Flynn chief of police I have two requests for for oper funds

2:55:54

uh the first one is for $100,000 it’s uh it’s actually combination between my department and um the Fire Department

2:56:01

chief Foley who’s out of state this evening so as you know on SE uh June

2:56:06

30th we’re we’re going to be ready to move over to our new dispatch location

2:56:12

at the Plymouth County Sheriff’s Department and to make that uh trans transition as

2:56:17

smooth as possible we’re looking to uh assign Superior officers from both

2:56:22

police and fire for the first month or so on overtime uh to assist and Mentor the new

2:56:29

dispatch operators um we feel this is an essential um activity we can do to make

2:56:37

the transition as smooth as possible instill some confidence in some of the newer dispatches and and work on

2:56:45

um work on our strong um working working

2:56:50

foundation so that that’s the $100,000 uh the second second uh amount

2:56:57

I’m looking for is

2:57:13

$831,000 policy that we that all groups agree upon uh we believe this is a very

2:57:19

important piece of equipment for all officers and um if approv we hope to have this

2:57:25

program up and run it by the Fall any questions for the

2:57:33

chief no uh Nick Hill should be able to zoom

2:57:40

in there we go you good evening good evening everyone uh my name is NI Hill I’m the

2:57:47

facilities manager of the town uh my request this year is for

2:57:53

$150,000 now this includes the engineering design and cost estimation

2:57:59

for window replacement design uh masonary replacement and

2:58:04

repointing as well as me existing conditions and Alternatives work at

2:58:11

Memorial Hall um obviously this building is in need

2:58:16

of some repair and uh replacement through the envelope through the hvfac

2:58:22

system as well as the windows themselves and all this will be engineered and gone

2:58:28

through the Historical Society for um everything that needs to be

2:58:35

done thank you any questions from board

2:58:42

members I I just have one will will this address some of the water issue we’ve

2:58:48

had there yes yes it will we’ve had uh some

2:58:53

extensive water issues as I’m sure you have all known um we’ve been able

2:58:59

to correct about 90% of these however the window replacement and brick

2:59:05

repointing and replacement and resealing will be in extral uh benefit to the

2:59:13

building itself s okay thank

2:59:19

you and that would be um all the projects that were requesting approval for tonight and I just forward you guys

2:59:24

the uh all the backup so I apologize thank you no

2:59:31

problem I move that we um appropriate the arpa funds as described in the last

2:59:39

from the and in the in the materials we now have I’ll second

2:59:45

that motion by Mr Helm second by Mr bletzer Mr bletzer yes Mr Helm yes Mr KY

2:59:53

yes Mr Mahoney yes and my myself yes unanimous thank

3:00:00

you Town manager’s report um thank you good evening I know it’s getting late

3:00:06

I’ll keep my comments brief so I want to provide a few operational updates and then a few announcements of some items

3:00:11

that are happening over the course of the next few days here in town uh so first and foremost uh I want to uh

3:00:17

notify the board that we had a great meeting with the new commissioner of the Department of Conservation Recreation

3:00:23

today select melza uh was able to sit in on this meeting that was organized by

3:00:29

our state delegation uh and in particular Senate former Senate President theres Murray uh who had a

3:00:36

personal relationship U with the commissioner and so at this this this meeting we had today we had the

3:00:42

opportunity uh murator took the commissioner down on the waterfront we looked at the DC AAC we looked at um uh

3:00:49

the state pier and and starting the conversations of what it would take for

3:00:55

the town to reclaim those two pieces of property so uh we’ll keep the board uh

3:01:00

AR prize as those conversations moving forward but I know this was an issue that was brought up I think first last

3:01:06

year by uh select bler got in the park and then select Mahoney had talked about the peer um last year as well so again

3:01:13

we’re moving forward this was a a goal of the board last year so we’ll keep you posted on uh how things move forward

3:01:19

with that one uh and addition to that uh I think the chief is still here uh so

3:01:25

the chief has been working with the sheriff’s uh office over the past few months to close the access road so this

3:01:32

is the access road that runs behind uh the old shops at 5 over to the uh uh

3:01:38

County uh sheriff’s department so uh effective I think Chief next week is that going to take place that that on

3:01:45

July July 7th uh that road will be closed permanently uh so again want not

3:01:50

only the board to know but the public to know that that will no longer be accessible uh and then as far as what

3:01:57

I’m sure everybody’s waiting to hear what’s going on in Water Street um so as of this morning uh with DPW director

3:02:03

shazi reported that um this week um they’re pulling all the sheathing out of

3:02:08

the ground so there will be some vibrations you will hear some vibrations um they we expect all the sheathing to

3:02:13

be pulled out of the ground by the end of this week uh and then immediately thereafter starting to put the road back together and based upon tonight’s uh

3:02:21

vote uh we certainly will um replace the crosswalk as well once the road’s put back

3:02:27

together uh and then another item I don’t want to make any promises but uh we have heard the businesses uh loudly

3:02:34

and clearly that when we return to construction that they would hope that we wait till after the Thanksgiving Day

3:02:41

events um I would BPW team is working with Northern construction uh to make

3:02:47

that happen uh again we’re going to have to go by Northern construction’s timeline on this but right now it

3:02:52

appears that they’re in agreement that we will not return back to the construction project until after Thanksgiving but again I just want to

3:02:59

let folks know that we are trying to work um with the contractor on that um two other quick items alleron

3:03:07

Street Park is now open so thank you board for funding $400,000 to reclaim that Park so it’s no longer a deao dog

3:03:14

park um I know last week I went up there and there were dozens of kids on the playground and I think there was uh a

3:03:22

little Mahoney who’s on who’s already used the playground as well so uh getting a lot of use out of that

3:03:27

playground um so we’d like to do some type of we have a soft opening already but we’d like to do some type of grand

3:03:33

opening in the future and then one thing I do want to bring to the board’s attention because I

3:03:38

think it’s important is um we’ve been working with the DPW director around the the transfer station so we’ve had a lot

3:03:44

of we’ve had a lot of problems um in the past with residents getting to the

3:03:50

transfer station r at the 4:00 hour um this delays the closure of the transfer station so what we are proposing we want

3:03:58

folks to be aware that we’re proposing to close the gate at the transfer station at 3:45 um so that anybody who’s

3:04:05

who’s arrived prior to that can handle their business and then we can still have those individuals leave uh by 4

3:04:13

p.m. this is uh this will help with um ensuring our Personnel get home on time

3:04:19

and not have to work those overtime hours so unless I hear anything differently we’re going to go ahead and move forward with that effective on July

3:04:25

1st in the um so that’s 8:00 a.m. to 3:45 p.m. every day Sunday through

3:04:30

Tuesday and then Friday and Saturday and then just some quick announcements uh this coming Saturday at

3:04:37

the Spire Center um there will be a presentation on saltwater intrusion um

3:04:43

it’s the MVP Grant uh a number of our local community based organizations focus on the environment um pull

3:04:50

together a grant about a year and a half ago uh to to study saltwater intrusion they’ll be doing a presentation at 9:30

3:04:56

a.m. uh at the Spire Center if folks want to join uh I want to let the board know

3:05:02

that last Thursday uh I attended the harm reduction program up on Court

3:05:07

Street uh the H Reduction Program has been here in town over a year um they are doing amazing things uh this is the

3:05:14

C program uh around um harm reduction trying to find um treatment and uh other

3:05:23

remedies for those individuals who uh maybe are substance abusers or users um

3:05:30

and so this is a program that we as we move towards a health and human services department um these are the types of

3:05:37

programs and the organizations we plan to um to work with to partner with uh to

3:05:42

mobilize Partnerships and to be data driven uh and then uh as the chief

3:05:48

mentioned uh we are moving quickly to transfer the Dispatch Center over to the Sheriff’s Office uh there will be a

3:05:56

launch uh on June 30th over at the sheriff’s department uh the event will

3:06:01

take place at 11:00 a.m. uh over at on longpond road uh and then last I just want to let

3:06:08

the board know that um the $4.7 million that the the County Commissioners had

3:06:15

awarded the town for the sua Interceptor project uh we still haven’t received those dollars but the County

3:06:21

Commissioners will be here uh this coming Friday at noon time in front of town hall to award the $4.7 million

3:06:27

check to the town so um inviting all board members if you are available please stop by um to thank the County

3:06:35

Commissioners pending any questions that’s all I have for this evening Mr Helm uh a couple things um

3:06:43

I’ve gotten a lot of texts about the Allerton Park um and from what I’ve seen

3:06:48

and what I hear it’s big success so far a lot of kids playing there you know it

3:06:54

is really great so it’ll be neat to have a grand opening um secondly just a clarification uh the money that the

3:07:01

county is presenting us um is that arpa money that’s correct okay so it is not

3:07:08

from the county it’s from the federal government through the county

3:07:13

that that is true yes yeah just wanted to clarify that it was not the county giving us this

3:07:20

money I just have one Derek um on the transfer station are they handing out

3:07:27

anything or maybe a couple message in boards so people know that when they go there cuz a lot of people you know

3:07:33

running around last minute sure uh there’ll be a lot of my phone will be ringing now I think that’s a great idea

3:07:39

we’ll spend the next two weeks me using social media us the digital sign boards

3:07:45

whatever we need to do to get that M you know I think at the transfer stations themselves it gives them a couple weeks

3:07:50

to to know that that’s right yep we can do that thank you can I add one thing I just uh

3:07:58

selectman Helm I’d just like to make it clear it’s arer money distributed by the county but they don’t have to give it to

3:08:05

Plymouth they they they spread it between the 27 uh towns cities and towns

3:08:11

in the county so it it it it is coming from uh from the the County government

3:08:17

so I just want to make that clear they don’t have to give it to

3:08:23

us and and I appreciate that money I really do thank you I just like to

3:08:29

comment I appreciate that money as well and I question whether they have to give us money or not they have to give us

3:08:36

money we’re Plymouth okay we’re one of the largest populations if not you know

3:08:41

second only to Brockton in the county and we we will demand our fair share

3:08:47

from them so that’s that’s my

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point okay then any other questions for

3:09:03

Derek okay now new

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business Mr Mahoney business okay I’d love to get drawn into

3:09:16

a County government philos philosophy uh discussion but I won’t thank you thank

3:09:22

you all right having said that so last Thursday at

3:09:27

3:00 I was in Hanover on the Handover side of a uh the lams Ford Dam which

3:09:32

borders pemro and Hanover um I think all of you saw there was a request from a nonprofit in

3:09:38

Handover the North and South Rivers Watershed Association looking for somebody from the town of of Plymouth because we have expertise in

3:09:46

dam removal projects they wanted to come up and do a site visit so I did that and I want to thank the board for allowing

3:09:51

me to do that they was um elected and appointed officials from pemboke Hanover and

3:09:58

Hansen on site and I was there for approximately 45 minutes they are moving

3:10:04

forward with a feasibility study that will be done in a few months the next steps are they want to once the

3:10:09

feasibility is in hand they want to get that same delegation down to Plymouth

3:10:14

probably to Newfield Street Mr chairman and then obviously U once a date is firmed up I’ll let the board know

3:10:21

because then they’ll be able to show those communities the finished product so they’re going after two dams on the

3:10:27

Indian Head River and they’re the first two obstacles uh Atlantic Ocean up to the North River to the Indian Head River and

3:10:33

then these are the first two dams and uh the significant benefits to removal and

3:10:39

I’m proud of this community because they’re looking to us as role models and guidance on these

3:10:47

issues Mr Helm yeah I just want to take this opportunity to um note comment on

3:10:54

the fact that tonight was our first marathon example of the results of the

3:11:02

online volunteer application process um I’m not sure about the other

3:11:07

members but when I sat down at my computer this morning before I picked up

3:11:13

this scary amount of paper um it was really great to be able to run

3:11:21

through those forms that were filled out as I looked through all of the names

3:11:27

because um it was all of the I didn’t know all of

3:11:33

those people and what I found was that it made their interest even more um

3:11:43

significant to me um and I was able to I feel make make better decisions um I

3:11:50

would like to to any of the applicants who are listening now who chose not to fill it

3:11:57

out um I will express my disappointment that you chose not to fill it out or

3:12:02

that you chose to send an email saying I would like to be re reup to a committee

3:12:08

with nothing else okay the their responses paled in comparison to the

3:12:13

people who actually sat down and spent 15 to 20 minutes to explain why they

3:12:19

should be on these committees um and so I just wanted to thank you Anthony for

3:12:25

this and I wanted to encourage the board to in some way work towards requiring

3:12:32

that people use this system um because it was incredibly

3:12:39

helpful thank you thank you anything on under the

3:12:48

letters old business Mr KY thank you Mr chairman

3:12:57

um following through on what uh Harry had said I’d just like to take the opportunity to thank everybody that put

3:13:04

their name forward for all the positions that were appointed tonight whether they were appointed to the board or committee

3:13:11

that they were seeking appointment to or whether they were not um whether they had previously put in years of service

3:13:18

or not uh everybody who put their name forward and uh submitted the application

3:13:24

and uh gave time to answer our questions we really appreciate that we certainly

3:13:29

appreciate the service uh of everyone that has previously served in the willingness of those that wanted to

3:13:36

serve once again uh so i’ just like to thank everybody whether you got the position you wanted or not we appreciate

3:13:43

you um putting your name forward and being willing to serve the community that we all love thank you

3:13:49

absolutely anything else under old business and just want the board to know

3:13:55

that I reached out to Anthony today and on our meeting schedule where it’s like

3:14:00

that to come up with something like that with um all our invites so any selectman

3:14:07

can go on and see what’s coming up and you can put your name in there if you don’t like har it’s going is going um

3:14:14

and everybody knows when it is and just go right there and he’s going to yet to set it up but I know it’ll be good

3:14:20

because everything he sets up is very good so all righty we’re not going to adjourn

3:14:27

well we’ll adjourn the public session open session of this

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so motion to join our Open Session yeah so move thank seconded second thank you for

3:14:43

watching the board will not be

3:14:50

returning